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McCain Osama bin Laden.
The president the first day in office.
I was sitting with him in the Oval Office -- -- in the CIA had signed an order saying my highest priorities -- and lot governor Romney was asked the question about how -- -- -- is that I wouldn't move heaven and earth.
To get the line.
Didn't understand was more than about taking -- a murder -- off the battlefield it was about restoring America's heart.
And letting terrorists around the world know if you do harm to America.
We will attract you to the gates of hell -- -- Vice president Joseph Biden becoming the biggest cheerleader for the -- -- killed Osama bin Laden but here's something you probably didn't know.
The vice president actually opposed the mission in fact he was -- advisor who told President Obama not to go ahead with the plan so why do you tell the president not to do it.
Well the answers in the finished the killing of -- -- -- -- -- author Mark Bowden joins -- nice to see you mark.
Thank you Greta.
I can't say -- out I was actually glued to this book all weekend I don't think I've ever been so glued to a buck is -- -- fascinating.
I wanna go first to this issue of what you write about in the book you write and about -- about Vice President Biden.
It says he believes that if the president decide to choose in the air the ground option and at the effort failed in -- -- many ways it could.
Obama would lose his chance for a second term that is so profoundly Politico to be almost disturbing.
Is it -- -- mean -- you ask anybody about that does that mean who told -- that.
Well that's based on my interviews with.
A lot of people who -- involved in that meeting.
And you know it -- -- solicited advice from.
Everyone around the table I think that.
In a way -- Biden all the people in the room would be the one most likely to speak to the potential.
Political consequences of of the raid going wrong I mean the secretary of defense is gonna talk about the military.
Complications the secretary of state has been talk about.
The difficulties of dealing with Pakistan afterwards whether it's a success or failure.
Joseph Biden's been around Washington a long time I'm sure he remembers the failed rescue mission to Iran which probably did more than.
Any one thing to.
Two ruined Carter's chance of having a second term so.
He weighed in for more caution -- -- I think I think we should wait mister president so we have more information to make sure.
That bin Laden is there and his advice was not -- Well you mention that the Carter and sent out impressive I'm -- my memory -- but.
That Secretary Gates was also.
Around -- then at that time during the Carter 1980 when will we lost the military in in the desert.
And he at first it was he'd been -- -- better -- go drones but that he came along with doing the sending in the Navy SEALs and so that he was on board.
That's correct giving initially at that meeting he advised.
An aerial attack which would have involved shooting a small missile from a -- He went back to his office at the Pentagon and two of his deputies of Michael Vickers and Michelle floor and I.
Corralled and in his office and said boss we think you're wrong and a and they.
Talked about at this point of view and he changed his mind and communicated that the president following morning.
In live in -- -- SoundBite we did that from the debate tonight that Vice President Biden said that it was a highest priority and and I'm curious some.
In -- -- it is it at any time was this not the highest priority mean the last -- ten or eleven years.
-- to get some Milan.
I do think that for the president of the United States for President Bush.
With two war is in particular with the Iraq War as.
Larger preoccupation as it became and coupled with the fact that they've completely lost track of bin Laden so they didn't really have any thing to work with.
In that sense I think the effort to target bin Laden.
Receded it within the White House as a top priority in fact you were call.
-- that the bush White House for the most part.
Claimed that he had become irrelevant that he was probably up in that in a cave somewhere and tribal areas of Pakistan.
I do think that there is some truth to.
Insisting on making this a top priority having said that I don't believe -- -- ever -- thing but.
-- huge priority with the CIA.
It's I think it'd be very controversial issue of torture -- is that at any sort of very on -- -- -- -- any connection -- that.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- It does you know of the trail one you Trace it back to.
A bottom by began with detainees.
Who were interrogated some of them were interrogated and other countries.
Some of them were interrogated at CIA compounds.
It isn't as simple as saying that you know they lean on somebody and he coughed up.
Final piece of information but it is certainly true that the key interviews with.
Detainees including Khalid Sheikh Mohamed.
Oh with some of them are fairly notorious for the use of coercive interrogation tactics so there's no way that you can claim that.
The information that led them to a bottom but did not.
Include in torture.
Or or at least at the very early scores of interrogation sessions.
I'm -- got the -- and -- fast and whether it's time but the marital discord of the wives when they're living with Osama bin Laden -- you -- President Obama was 1911 happened with this -- -- is it's it's really that I urged viewers to get it is it's absolutely.
Every bit I don't like the part with.
The way that they had the measure -- -- up ahead of somebody like they -- -- -- navy seal who is six feet -- lie next to Osama bin Laden to try to -- -- everything's fascinated by mark.
Great book and then you -- I look towards your next and thank you mark thank you.
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