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Hey welcome back to kill -- -- friends who overthrew the final half hour to get a little break from politics for a moment welcome.
To the show.
Jennifer -- as well as Jim Caldwell there -- executives excuse me Jennifer you're not yet but your import your user.
But Jim you're an executive with unequal technologies.
Very official sounding name it's not computers it's protection.
Is protections which protection for your head protection for your body and not only for the Michael -- of the world.
For the everyday guy for the everyday girl competing.
Yeah we we dive deep it's really something that involves any kind of contact sport.
If you Wear a helmet if you're involved in collisions falls hits wipe out snowboarding skateboarding football lacrosse hockey you name it.
You know up until now it's been plastic and foam that's -- the nature of protection.
Now though we come to the party was 67 patents on a on a three letter composite it has Kevlar or high tensile strength fibers -- it but it's light -- this is -- it it's insanity at it's best to look it's in very low profile very thin eighth of an inch to quarter of an -- depending on body armor -- had armor.
And it deals with impact shock in the energy that comes from a hit hit it deals with that in a way that's different than any other substance in the on the planet.
And it dissipates at laterally sideways so it a portion of that energy does not make it through to the body whether it's placed in the helmet right what are some of mine who.
In terms of concussions.
Now terms of kids at every -- from the eight year old to the eighteen year old to the pros we watch on Sundays.
How does it impact them.
Well number one anybody who says they prevent concussions.
Okay is either -- fool or out of business if they have some kind of product.
We make no claim like that what we do say we do is -- we reduce the possibility of head injury and its severity.
And so anybody no matter the sport.
They can place this in their helmet easily in just -- a cut and paste -- accountants peel and stick type -- into the exit onto the existing -- was it would help.
And you with the helmet he goes to beat a team take the pads -- -- you put this -- thing these these pieces of unequal and up in the helmet so -- goes between you're here.
And the helmet itself yeah it literally is an -- right on and it says -- decide toward enemy so you don't get confused and it also has had to be the sticky side goes against the patent.
And it comfortable soft close -- type rubber type feeling goes against yours your -- and some people are saying well you know what I've seen this again the flak jacket -- -- quarterbacks to stay in and take these rib shots.
This is different than a flak jacket.
Well this it this is different in the sense that is who you know we have -- flak jacket protecting Michael Vick for instance and and several other quarterbacks in the league.
And and yes that is -- that is a slightly thicker substance but the but the concepts the same in the helmet it's simply taking that same.
It's really -- composite making it thinner.
Allowing it to not to hit -- we're talking 345 maybe six ounces depending on the helmet depending -- size.
And it's and it works instantly Jennifer can tell you that the nature of the way in which the people noticed a difference when they have their first tackle their first hit their first fall.
It's virtually instantaneous right you -- James Harrison of the Steelers into.
-- Jennifer what got you involved in this and east you have a son the police football correct and what when did you realize my sons had some problems he's either gonna quit or we got to make we got a call inaudible.
My -- was a freshman -- school.
And he kind got a concussion.
And my husband went online to take a look since he was actually on line to take on the eagles' web site because he's big Eagles -- And on their Michael Vick was talking about -- -- showing an -- technologies this year T.
My has -- was good enough for think it's probably good enough for me to try.
And so he purchased it and he cut out the pieces and put it in my son's helmet.
And my son said come after one use he said it was incredible.
The headaches that he is to have after -- played her while I was playing we're not there.
And he has been using it for about well at the end of last season and all of this season so -- without any concussions.
We -- the game he went back.
To play after he he had put the and unequal technologies and there were three of our starters who got concussions one game.
And every in the stands like -- my gosh you know really gonna do and I was talking to the parents and sort of work was my husband -- and we word.
Telling them about CRT and saying you know you've got to try this because.
We haven't seen it you know so far but it's something that we think you can we would be -- protecting your sons had to so they went out that weekend.
And everybody ordered sentence and peel and stick -- in two suspected in two and so it was pretty amazing and none of them have had concussions -- And you know she says now and again we don't tie.
We don't say we're gonna stop concussions but the headaches.
You know feeling sick after an a game those types of things it's just changed.
And her son swears by -- the -- are using it right.
We've got head to -- protection happening with the rams as -- rolls through that team you know when you cannot as you know you cannot tell a player what to Wear.
-- the that the rules associate with the players union they they get to decide whether what they weren't aware to a healthy degree for instance CRT right now it's a player's choice.
Body -- same thing but we have a relationship with the rams and they have -- they're swarming all over it.
Rob veto the founder and inventor of this material was in the locker room being slammed with a -- stick by Bubba.
11 of the heavy duty linebackers and just got killed.
As everybody stood around and watched and then process is that all you got here and the next thing in -- I want some.
Right Jeff Fisher has also been on and Jeff -- coach of the rams now and -- those of the fan of the military which brings yes the other area.
I mean we always wanna get the the equipment to these guys and women have to carry around got to get lighter have -- -- DC an application.
Well we started in the military.
We we spent.
Dozens and dozens of moments in ballistic labs working with a major vendors that supply the military.
Rod came up with this concept and it got -- bullet resistant vests before it came to sports.
And he learned through developing the thinness nature of what was required making vests later.
One piece of unequal would take the place of like seven or eight or ten layers of Kevlar.
And so as he discovered the ability to make it thinner and fitter and increase the performance they're basically was an aha moment.
Why the heck don't we take this into sports you don't like what are we stupid.
And the next thing you know in you think about it we can stop a bullet we can certainly stop a blitz that's kind of like one -- things we saying it's true.
Because you can take that energy that's -- almost dumbing it down for athletic protection.
So we curious you're saying.
I think at the as much as we like to watch the guys on Sunday.
I think this this is something really for the guys that the kids that are practicing after school.
And play on the weekends that may not be looking at a scholarship to USC UCLA do you agree ever.
For anybody that wants -- -- -- their mother you know.
Thanks -- exactly.
And you know he's a good point Brian you know there's a very slim minority of athletes to start out young and an up and pro professional.
Athletics of any kind.
It's the masses it's the millions of kids that are out there on -- the sand lot on a Saturday afternoon are playing in some kind of a league is a ten year old pop Warner or whatever.
Their heads -- RRR two are small the helmets don't necessarily fit correctly its last year's model they're neck doesn't have all the muscles that are at risk more than anybody else that's playing sports.
It's most important to people discover this -- unequaled unequal dot com they can find it there.
And learn about it read up on it become educated and try it and they'll realize it's this kind of protection at a young age where it's most important.
You know Jim Caldwell is here and general Brent your -- -- sons using the stuff Jim Caldwell is is really one of the pioneers pushing this forward.
And a tea I saw it recently two weeks ago when my son yield down to me because one of the -- that reporters who have.
Dangerously little to do I don't know you know that I want -- one plus one quote women in this country but I did a sideline reporter stuff going on so.
It's usually through what Michael Vick was wearing right at that time it was your stuff -- and I'm just thinking after that happens.
We all know we're not going pro I'm thinking to myself if I'm parent it was football we play a smaller sport is soccer in my house in hand over that later Pedroia you have shin -- with soccer chorus I'd -- and I would do that because I can keep the ribs and placing keep dead.
And then you have James Harrison.
His -- -- back who's probably one of the hardest hitters.
In the NFL said this socialism.
Only have some type you know aches and pains had accepted again.
Home I had no and I headaches.
I haven't you know haven't had any -- since I start wearing it.
Home you know knock on -- that's not to say that it is it's not you know it's not gonna happen nothing is a 100% and I know certain analysts is dead zone.
This is really.
There's really no -- -- see myself you know plant without at home.
This is someday you know my kids you know him up and you know they told me that they want to play ball this is -- that how would definitely have -- -- that I would not let them play without.
It's pretty simple bingo right and and he hits like a freight train I -- -- -- hits harder.
And he that the minute he -- was first practice after practice orbital bone around design and he was going to be on injured reserved for longer than.
Then people -- by the way if that happens and I'm probably doing something else.
They broke over the -- they killed yeah I would try -- yeah uh huh uh huh yeah exactly am I hanging -- -- -- -- what's wrong with -- picture.
Exactly so but he learned about this and and and Charlie Batch who -- a good friend also in the steelers' backup quarterback he watched terrorists and take another helmet.
And you know than noticing an agreement he would meet smashed that then -- his helmet with a CRT in and realize while.
That is pretty good and do it again so Charlie Batch one blocks overs as what are you doing.
We'll have heard about this new stuff.
So he goes out to practice comes back realizes -- my head feels different feels better track goes in his first game against the ravens in sacks quarterback three times calls Robinson -- Mean this is -- -- this is something and he was.
You know you don't watch Jaime Harrison could be very what we of the word vocal he has a quiet guy BA he's pretty -- to me and he had a lot.
Okay and in the last question is essentially -- story of football as we know about the successful successful sport in the world.
In our country by -- number one but in the off season there was saying how many players is saying.
My kids will not play right because of the danger in this sport.
Where I'm really thinking back to Teddy Roosevelt in the twenties or thirties where he said -- he called the commissioner -- is that you guys that are straight that your game because too many people are dying.
I mean this is if they don't get it together football.
And finally to protect these players is a bigger stronger faster there -- a lot of trouble you is apparent -- -- why did he -- football -- you looking for another -- just.
My -- played a lot of other sports I have two sons and and this that he he just likes football that's all I can say my hasn't played football in college -- Clinton North Carolina.
And so he was just he was -- -- applicable to it looks like so he really likes it and now we she protected -- it's.
People listen right now at all levels of play even -- their coach in any pop Warner team -- -- -- eight year old travel players where would they go.
He -- dot com and it's it's you don't have navigation you'll see the menu across the -- -- T body armor -- armor.
And certainly for volume discounts team discounts all the good stuff will absolutely stepping in nature but he's taken care of because it's about protecting the players.
And we're completely cognizant about the fact that it's time.
Lacrosse soccer Sheehan has -- saw the cross beds as well you name it.
So yet hockey is well hockey hockey of course named the sport can -- the -- -- the technology and put it and if it's contact sport we've got which any.
Bottom line you know even in New York for people who are pedestrians has become a physics was actually at a -- I really feel as though I'm going to -- that -- a minute I've -- music.
We're we're not doing their best to make sure that the cops of New -- -- getting a return that does that add absolutely need if you have enough protection.
Jim Kolbe thanks to a Jennifer Brandt thanks so much.
Unequal technologies and I hope if you watch the rams and you notice it.
No one's getting there in this day and in the field maybe other teams do it but I also know that rob is Conan cardinals for cardinals fans in Arizona.
He's -- to do their quarterback Kevin Cobb called they said -- which police have done here protect us -- thing about it is we're always coming in after the fact this is about making sure we start.
-- -- was get ahead of the injuries not after the Ian Johnson EB human armadillo drama that's who are talking about.
It -- me to -- that vehicles.
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