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Thanks Fred and we're here with that Pat Buchanan he has served as senior advisor to presidents Nixon Ford and Reagan and of course is a for a presidential candidates -- so pat.
How do you measure who won what's your criteria and who won.
Roller criteria I have is it that Romney had to come in here insure himself to be.
Able to be the first diplomat in the country he had to -- himself to be the commander in chief.
And he had a -- self knowledge Opel and foreign policy and I think you accomplished that.
So that is a victory for him and that's also believe that he -- the pitfall.
This debate which was the Democrats and President Obama wanted to push him hope there.
In just sort of a bellicose individual who's gonna you know give -- certain weapons to the Syrians get us into that war gift give -- more over the Iraq.
That Romney avoided that consciously I think -- deliberately he was a very reason but tough here.
So I think in those terms he won the debate -- a couple of interventions I thought which were terrific and there I do think the president started off stronger.
But I think if you take a look at the two men at the end of the debate -- That Romney was smiling he was relaxed you look like a winner.
And the -- -- -- is making some petty attacks on him I thought and seem like he was frustrated that it was not attending the way he wanted.
So I think overall I mean Mitt Romney did everything he had to do you know if you've admitted to debate one point you're clearly.
Areas and there were pressed the president beat Romney clearly but I think overall it was sort of even debate.
But you have to say Mitt Romney's a winner here I'll push when he came to -- If there's no room daylight between the -- so many -- matters of foreign policy if you are truly an undecided and if you're going to base your entire decision on tonight.
You're gonna make a decision basically a -- what you should this -- if we like better.
-- my -- I have come across better or who was more effective because I mean it's hard to make a decision based on this one maybe there's eventually won.
I mean I am and economic patriot or -- economic nationalist.
And I -- Mitt Romney's answer on China we don't want war -- China we want to work with them they're great power.
But did he -- laid out the abuses of that they put down there and we're gonna put an end of these things in other words.
Look we want free trade he stand but we're not going to accept cheating and although the rest of it.
And we're gonna have some responses to that I think that has a tremendous appeal especially in the industrial midlands of the country.
Here I think that if I -- to say what I like best that governor Romney did tonight it wasn't until the very end.
When he looks into the camera and he says the American people something effect like.
I'll work with him.
And I think you know it was all -- sort of problems that the American people had with Washington I thought that was a -- but anyway pat we got a.
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