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The big -- -- he's been out of work they -- jobs Americans under attack.
The United States or never tolerate effort from -- -- Americans.
This out what to do about energy and the -- You put ninety billion dollars in the green jobs who has -- solutions voters plus it's obvious that present on the right track.
Fox News reporting breaks it down behind Obama -- green again from Denver Colorado here's bred bay Colorado of utilizes them.
And few places straddled the great divide over environment protection the -- Colorado yes.
Like America as a whole folks here don't always agree on how to balance our duty on the one hand to be good stewards of the earth.
-- on the other to ensure this generation can enjoy all the benefits.
Progress can offer.
Fox News has been crisscrossing the country to bring you a better understanding of what's really driving the green debate.
First up Gregg Jarrett investigates the rise and fall of a high ranking Obama appointee in the Environmental Protection Agency.
And whether his radical views are all too common at that increasingly powerful agents.
Three -- army dearest was one of the environmental protection agency's top officials until this tape went viral in April of 2012.
Crucified and -- -- was talking about how he deals with the boiling gas producers he regulated.
In Arkansas Louisiana New Mexico Oklahoma and Texas.
Which comprise the EPA's region six the fiftieth sparked a political firestorm.
His comments were wrong frankly they were inflammatory -- and dearest his -- EPA administrator Lisa Jackson accepted his resignation.
Saying his views were not -- by the president politically -- -- did they don't comport with this administration's policy.
On energy but Fox News has been told this was not the only time -- -- dearest who would not speak with -- openly threatened companies he regulated.
He appeared before the Oklahoma independent petroleum association.
What happened they told the group straight on that we're gonna use everything in -- book.
To come after you.
Harold -- is the CEO of continental resources and -- gas exploration company.
He was recently appointed chairman of the Romney campaign's energy policy advisory.
We've got to drift for a quick that -- -- -- shows that -- -- there -- made it clear that oil and gas industry.
Was the enemy.
Well it was what started that way.
Before joining the Obama administration.
-- dearest taught engineering at southern Methodist university in Dallas he also advised.
In they're battle against something called hydraulic fracturing.
The technique in Jackson -- chemicals far below ground.
To extract otherwise on recoverable oil and gas it's created a bonanza.
Many environmentalists say fracking pollutes air land and water.
-- claim most famously advanced in the Oscar nominated documentary.
Gas land the film made its point by igniting methane gas seeping out of the kitchen -- -- Colorado fox sports.
The film included an appearance might then professor arming terrorists a cameo that would later spark a different kind of exposes altogether.
That's story begins in 2010.
When a Texan named Stephen Lipsky attended a screening of gas -- -- Fort Worth, Texas.
After Lipsky said he suspected that he is well had been fouled by fracking.
He was putting contact with a local anti fracking -- -- -- rich rich went to -- -- home with a camera.
Connected the garden hose to a spigot.
And put a match to the end like gasoline signatures seen it ignited.
-- rich then emailed a copy to -- -- now with the EPA as proof.
That fracking by a company named range resources had fouled mr.
Lipsky is well.
According to EPA records agency scientists had serious misgivings about the video and other evidence that -- being gathered.
But -- dearest brushed them aside and pushed through an emergency order against range resources he even went on local TV to declare that quote not only -- their natural gas in the water well but this is natural gas that is coming from the production activities of rain.
Mike Williams -- the top boiling gas regulator for the state of Texas decided to review the battery -- -- There was no way in the world that range production activities had anything to do.
With the natural gas there might have been some of -- Indeed winds -- took his claim to state court the judge found that reached didn't screw that garden hose on -- -- water spigot.
But instead intentionally.
Attached it to a methane gas vent.
A common feature on many private water wells because methane gas is often found there.
-- they hit the record button and lit the escaping gas.
Oh my god look at that Texas district court judge.
Found that -- rich produce quote a deceptive video calculated to alarm the public into believing that the fracking operations.
Of a company called range resources.
We're endangering human law.
Not only did she do that -- -- -- pass that information wrong.
Two reasons six EPA.
And -- they took it and rain with that as well -- range resources.
They work it -- for us this is an outlandish.
And it is unfortunate that -- federal officials didn't give us.
Would falsify active.
And go after -- -- Texas business.
Is it possible arm and yours didn't actually know that that tests had been deceptive or falsified.
I'll -- render us wasn't willing participant could be good programs and it wasn't somebody -- -- Al had his own -- that was there first match of this industry and Texas.
Last spring the EPA quietly rescinded the endangerment order against range resources issued by -- -- But senator John Barrasso -- Wyoming Republican.
Insists this goes beyond one regulators agenda that's the -- -- EPA has been actually behaving over the last two years that's why they've gained this reputation for being abused.
He says in his state.
Another EPA administrator has twice tried to unfairly shut down a natural gas fracking operation.
Has been called out as being faulty.
I view it as a vendetta against red white and blue American energy.
Coming up how the EPA amassed power and what it wants to do with it.
Welcome back at the heart of the debate over environmental policy is the Environmental Protection Agency.
America is a lot cleaner than it used to be and many give the EPA the credit.
But that isn't all the agency is doing or hopes to do in the future.
-- -- Americans worry about EPA mission -- Want to talk about environmental problems in America.
Look back a few decades.
LA smog was so bad in the 1940s.
One day panicked Californians.
Thought the Japanese had launched a chemical weapons attack.
In the 1950s.
You could barely see across Pittsburgh many days in 1965.
Time magazine pronounced Lake Erie a Dead -- Killed by industrial pollution and president Johnson declared the raw sewage flowing down the Potomac.
A national disgrace.
For the first time polls showed the environment was one of America's greatest worries.
That presented an opportunity.
For LBJ's successor.
President Nixon in 1968.
He was moved by that to say to his people.
-- get out front on the environment.
Just days after Nixon took office a huge oil spill hit Santa Barbara California.
Then Ohio's Cuyahoga River caught fire and William Reilly was one of Richard Nixon's senior environmental -- here rivers -- hire you better be aggressive.
Weeks after the first Earth Day in 1970.
Nixon established by executive order.
The brand new Environmental Protection Agency.
And answer said the government did pretty good job of cleaning things up.
-- -- As director of the Copenhagen consensus center.
Bjorn -- board writes extensively.
On green regulators.
Rivers I'm not catching fire anymore and that's a great thing.
We dug through some public opinion.
In those years.
And even as the nation's air and water we're getting cleaner and the toxic waste dumps were getting cleaned up the American people.
We're still getting increasingly worried.
About the environment.
Why is that you think.
We went from not worrying at all in the forties and fifties.
To possibly worrying too much or at least worrying about the wrong things -- that bomb works as a new genre of environmental dooms -- books.
Beginning with silent spring.
-- marine biologist Rachel Carson.
A runaway best seller in 1962.
When it invasion humans gradually destroying the world.
By among other things the indiscriminate use of chemicals like DDT.
-- board credits silent spring.
With launching the modern environmental movement that movement showed its strength.
By getting William -- house the first EPA chief to -- the insecticide DDT in 1972.
The EPA's lead was followed by increasing restrictions worldwide of the pesticide.
Over the next thirty years and that unfortunately it was incredibly wrong headed.
Wrong headed -- board says.
Because the DDT restrictions.
Likely contributed to several million unnecessary deaths from mosquito borne malaria worldwide.
Silent spring was followed by a string of best sellers that predicted mass starvation.
Even the collapse of civilization itself all within decades to people believe this stuff.
Very clearly most people believe that back -- seventy.
PH was scared -- atlas the environmental movement began to morph into something new.
And so did the EPA.
Says anthropologist Peter wood who has written extensively on the movement EPA engaged in mission creep -- begin to look.
More elusive threats.
-- Chemicals that might or might not be carcinogen like Americans do want protection from.
Threats of all sorts risks that we didn't even know about by the late 1970s.
Increasingly intrusive EPA regulations.
Led to a backlash.
We will not permit the safety of our people or our environmental heritage to be jeopardized.
But we are going to reaffirm.
That the economic prosperity.
Of our people.
Is a fundamental part of our environment.
But even under president Reagan's watch the EPA managed to turn a community.
Into a ghost -- Times beach Missouri.
Scientists found tiny traces of dioxin.
At the time thought to be the most toxic chemical synthesized by a man.
The government permanently at that he waited times speech uprooting thousands.
That toxic town.
Is a popular state park.
That's right the federal health official who ordered the evacuation.
Later admitted -- overreacting.
Riley would become EPA's administrator two years later.
He push to expand his agency's regulatory reach.
What was your crowning achievement -- -- -- -- crowning achievement as the use of market incentives for the first time in a major stature.
He's talking about what's now known as cap and trade a system that makes companies pay if they pollute.
It was used to combat acid rain.
So -- dioxide from mid -- smokestacks.
Said to be killing trees in the northeast.
-- hugely effective.
Largely now accepted and supported.
Approach to pollution control.
The EPA got -- additional authority in 2007.
When the Supreme Court ruled 540.
That the Clean Air Act authorized the agency to regulate greenhouse gases including carbon dioxide.
Carbon dioxide is what we exhale carbon dioxide.
It's necessary for -- long before he was a radio talk show host Mark Levine and started the Landmark Legal Foundation.
In that capacity he's regularly tangled with the EPA in court.
We have an unelected branch of government giving and other unelected branch of government.
Enormous powers what do you say the people out there said mark -- it's not that that don't mean to sound alarmist.
But the Environmental Protection Agency has many of the attributes of the old Soviet system.
Sending industrial policy this is something we should be very very concerned about -- people.
The Obama administration has suggested the EPA will use its new power to impose -- commanding control way.
A Cap and Trade System for carbon if congress doesn't act.
It's a massive tax that could cost the American economy more than a half a trillion dollars a year trillion with a T.
According to the National Association of Manufacturers.
Riley the former Republican EPA chief says something like that needs to be done.
I think that EPA has been led to a position.
Where it's got to act.
Among other things the EPA cleanup operations of forty years ago cost relatively little and most everyone benefit.
-- all out effort to lower the temperature of the planet.
Assuming global warming is a real problem that humans can reverse.
Would surely be the most complicated and expensive undertaking.
In human history.
That the kinds of pollution to Pittsburgh while I was growing up.
Just gone and I'm very grateful for that generation you can you -- to make it out.
For Peter would be EPA's latest mission reveals not a concern for the environmental.
But -- radical agenda that's less about the environment and most Americans try to match.
As you'll see later.
-- discovered that in -- college freshman dorm.
Ball from the court two hours of -- When we return sweetheart suits and why they're bad for democracy.
After the break.
-- elect representatives to set national policy by passing laws.
That's how democracy is supposed to work.
But now questions about whether the EPA with the help of courts and environmental groups.
Has seized power that voters can no longer control.
1010 the northwest environmental defense center convinces -- court that muddy water running off logging roads is industrial pollution.
Requiring an EPA clean water permit.
The timber industry says that will cost hundreds of millions of dollars.
Kill thousands of jobs and invite protracted litigation without any environmental benefit.
Another environmental group.
The Chesapeake Bay foundation -- to force the EPA to crack down on water runoff from farms along the day.
The EPA -- and impose strict new rules that the American farm bureau says will cost billions of dollars.
EPA imposes stricter limits on pesticide use then congress required.
After a consortium of environmental groups sued.
Saying that lawmakers were being too lenient.
Just a few of a series of cases that show how environmental groups exert extraordinary influence.
Over the EPA.
They use a lot of litigation to get federal judges the ordered the EPA.
To do what they want them to do Steven Hayward is a professor at Pepperdine University.
-- long complicated story -- very poorly understood by the public and even by members of congress my understanding is that there are situations where groups.
File suit against or agency.
And literally on the same day.
Their settlements -- in to -- your agency with those groups one congressman asked EPA administrator Lisa Jackson about it in 2002 -- I'm not aware of any settling this same day there's a long history.
Under all administrations.
EPA kind of working -- -- advocacy groups and what I would college sweetheart deal Jeff homestead is a former assistant EPA administrator.
If someone brings one of these cases.
They get to recover any fees.
And you have to pay for their costs -- bring -- suit so it it it's it's a pretty good money maker and it gets even worse says homestead.
Many of the same groups also get grants -- yeah it seems that the -- -- I've said for years I think -- -- school system.
But that's the system that we.
We are subsidizing.
These groups to bring lawsuits to attack private property rights to -- the capitalist system.
To attack various industries Marco van says in many cases the law gives environmental groups special standing to Suze it is say they horrendous circle and community say it does not enter -- -- settlement but Louisiana senator David better.
A Republican member of the committee on environment and public works says environmental groups.
Don't even have to sue to stop delay or threatened some projects.
Case in point.
The pebble partnership proposes a new mineral mining operation that could generate billions of dollars of economic activity.
And thousands of jobs around the Bristol Bay region.
And you're a local environmental group which complained to the EPA.
Despite the fact that no plan or permit had been submitted for review.
EPA announced its opposition to the project.
Including that he might interfere with a sockeye salmon habitat.
Whether or not the project ultimately happens.
-- says the EPA abused -- now they -- jump on the gun and looking to preempt the whole decision.
Even worse bitter says some groups are now using the system to advance agendas that have nothing to do with the environment.
In 2010 a collection of environmental groups petitioned the EPA to regulate the lead in bullets as a toxic substance.
Claiming they contaminate ground water and poison wildlife.
CPA actually began and the public comment process.
But shut it down when a political firefight broke out.
The NRA -- EPA is.
Back -- attempt to limit hunting imposed and true yeah I mean by that I think it was clearly -- clever.
-- this approach to chronic cut down on gun rights and make life tougher for folks on -- And Hayward thinks.
We haven't seen the -- environmental groups think of the EPA as their agency just making a mess of things and it's just gonna get worse.
Coming up environmental racism and the Keystone Pipeline.
Is Obama's green agenda killing jobs.
Six before he took office President Obama has promise to boost the economy.
By creating millions of green jobs.
Taxpayers have spent billions but the green economy.
Has yet to rule.
So get real existing economy the one that overwhelmingly still depends on fossil fuels.
-- one decision captures for Obama's critics the radical nature of his green agenda.
It's his refusal to go full board on the keystone XL pipeline.
Our experts that we need a certain amount of time to review project.
The seven billion dollar project would transport oil from the petroleum rich oil sands of western Canada.
Two refineries in taxes the environmentalists were saying we've got to stop it.
And using every Tuesday could senator James in -- is a Republican from Oklahoma.
He says building the pipeline is a no brainer.
For many reasons starting with the thousands of private sector jobs economists predict it would create.
-- all its capability not just in producing and exploring but also the pipelines going through we have to keep their production in America.
The Obama administration however says it's concerned the pipeline would pollute -- version would cross over.
And of course getting more Canadian tar sand oil to market could only in the administration's view accelerate global warming.
But what really gets in -- is another argument advanced by EPA administrator Lisa Jackson.
It's what we see an inner cities where air pollution makes kids miss school and -- -- stay home.
It's what we see on tribal lands were open landfills are rampant and drinking water is polluted.
Environmental justice argument goes something like the Keystone Pipeline -- -- done.
In Port Arthur, Texas the refineries in the neighborhood actually.
The refining process will therefore pollute.
I would say that's when war fabrication.
Used to retard our production.
In this country those people who need jobs I've been working with people in Port Arthur and their biggest prize.
Their biggest request is to have more -- paying a little jobs and this is what this Keystone Pipeline would bring.
Harry Alford president of the national black chamber of commerce.
Doubts concerns about environmental justice are sincere I don't think that our EPA administrator Jackson.
Is just turning over at night thinking about the poor blacks.
And Port Arthur, Texas -- David -- thinks the Obama administration.
Employs many bogus arguments against fossil.
Fuels several years ago -- invested billions of dollars to get -- -- offshore Alaska.
And Obama VP day held out opt for various imaginative reasons for total -- about three years.
The most imaginative delay tactic he says.
Asserting that emissions from shells ice breaking vessels would approach.
Impermissible air pollution levels.
-- finally took action by the congress and just took the entire.
Particular matter out of the EPA's hands so -- vital project could won't.
EPA wouldn't talk to us.
They only sent a statement which asserted it's good faith efforts on the environment and that quote.
For over forty years the EPA has taken sensible steps that protect the air we breathe and the water we drank.
And then there's the moratorium on gas and oil exploration.
In the Gulf of Mexico after the BP oil spill President Obama -- -- energy and climate czar Carol Browner imposed it.
Over objections that it would kill even more jobs in the region.
Already devastated by the spill -- Browner said -- the panel of experts that she said recommended stopping all exploration and drilling in the gulf.
An Interior Department inspector general probe concluded that Browner had implied that the experts had supported the moratorium.
When in fact they had neither reviewed nor supported such a policy decision.
And that investigation confirm that Carol Browner in the White House doctor that report to lead to the moratorium Browner wouldn't talk to us.
But -- -- thinks it was a case of never letting a crisis go to waste when this opportunity came up they immediately went.
To the most extreme action completely.
Shutting down the gulf what kind of economic impact did that have on your region.
Huge impact tens of thousands of jobs that moratorium was far bigger.
Then hit from the spill itself.
And it was the biggest negative thing we've dealt with and -- plus years.
You've heard people talk about sustainability.
What exactly do they mean.
It may be the key to understanding what's behind the Obama green agenda.
After the break.
This is sustainability.
Park in downtown Denver it celebrates the idea of sustainable development.
You hear that term a lot these days but do you really know what it means.
What Gregg Jarrett discovered.
Sustainable planet sustainable campuses clean sustainable energy.
If -- like Peter would former Boston University anthropology professor former King's College pro -- Current president of the National Association of Scholars.
You may have assumed that all this sustainability.
Was just a fancy way of speaking green I thought it was -- up to date word or environmental -- them and -- whose organization was founded to confront the rise of campus political correctness.
Discovered a sustainability.
Initiative at the University of Delaware.
It seem to have precious little to do with clean air or clean water.
The 7000 dormitories students were expected to participate in this video produced by another college watchdog group.
We've got so racist don't be racist -- be racist students -- the program -- important because -- of this race or you.
Identify with this sexual orientation I -- gay marriage doesn't mean everyone and the school.
Should have to -- whites do.
-- that they had to -- that they were racist students were told that if they didn't support gay marriage had to go stand in the corner it sounds like what you're describing news.
Students being brain off it was an attempt to get in solid students' heads.
Eliminate them from American culture.
They can feel guilty of -- the social attitudes they brought from their homes and replace them with basically quasi Marxist view of the world.
I don't think anybody -- gotten vaccinated that's not really what was going -- John Byrne is the director of the university center for energy and environmental policy.
It's -- sustainability.
While he says he had nothing to do with the program he confirmed it was part of the university's.
The aim at that point was a proposal that students would engage these.
Somewhat controversy alone arguments and some.
Students felt that that was inappropriate.
So this school canceled the program.
But -- wanted to know what -- had to do with sustainability.
In the first place he got its answer in a University of Delaware computer presentation he found during his investigation.
It illustrated the concept of sustainability.
With three overlapping circles.
Healthy environments plus strong economies and social justice.
Where they overlap.
That's the sustainable sweet spot in other words sustainability.
Is about a lot more than in the environment.
-- discovered that notions like anti colonialism.
Eco feminism and eco socialism.
They can be part of sustainability.
That's also opposed escaping from -- under -- is.
Getting us -- with the social justice agenda the term sustainability was -- in in 1987.
United Nations reports is burn.
Who should know.
He was a member of the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change which shared the 2007.
Nobel Peace Prize with Al.
-- free -- -- was made that we need to figure out on one hand.
How to make.
A world that would be economically improved and on the other hand make sure that we bequeath a -- functioning environment for future generations.
Green is just part of the court -- it's just part of your question.
That's for much of the credit for turning in the UN's idea of sustainable development into a -- movement here in the US goes to Anthony court -- easy.
Former commissioner of the Massachusetts department of environmental protection he got a biggest -- From one of America's top democratic power couples Rios summit in -- -- too.
John Kerry and Teresa Heinz.
Got got together they emerge from that with the ideas sustainability.
Right contacted you.
Yes John Kerry called me up and said.
You know I think we really need to promote sustainable -- They created a nonprofit called second nature.
-- he -- the best place to start changing the way Americans think and live.
Was on college campuses.
So he pushed the university presidents nationwide.
To -- advancing the sustainability.
Agenda their schools and number one priority how successful.
Were you in getting their support we started in in early 2007 with twelve colleges and universities.
That -- that stepped up and made this commitment.
So now we have 677.
And all fifty states -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Is the biggest thing on the American college campus and woods says -- shouldn't surprise anyone that it's led to outrage over things like.
That's sustainability program at the University of Delaware the sustained -- and Q is -- Our.
Is founded on a rotten days.
So this is not what we're intending to do this no.
-- no liberal there's no conservative there's no ideology here you're not driven by liberal political agenda now.
But second nature's publications.
Suggests otherwise sustainable development and environmental justice -- is passed.
Present and future.
Mal distribution of resources privileges and rights of endangered communities.
Of poor people.
And of communities.
It really does sound like.
Liberal social theory is that what you want all college students to be here today.
No it's what we want -- -- to understand.
What happened in the past and what the consequences for national -- says what it says is we're gonna redress from repaid.
Of the past I mean that's what it -- it's no because -- it's not fair.
It was your report.
Yes it was our report we've got to make up.
For past inequality way I interpreted the.
Question news how the Obama administration interprets the word sustainability.
The evidence suggests a lot like court -- easy but clean sustainable economy that's EPA administrator Lisa Jackson we must build and -- -- A country in an economy where everyone.
It's a fair shot is the key to president Obama's green agenda.
It was commissioned after the president signed an executive order calling floor.
An integrated strategy toward sustainability.
In the federal government.
The report recommends the agency incorporated into wit's daily affairs.
The three sustainable development pillars social environmental.
-- the EPA is on board with your sustainability.
This sounds like that while the EPA tells fox it is not yet made any decisions on implementation of the report.
Move forward President Obama.
Is he on board with sustainability.
For me that's an open question.
Although all voice he disturbance -- for sustainability movement -- intrinsically good footwork hopefully.
Coming off the choice for the November election might come down to two competing visions of progress.
We'll explain when Fox News reporting returns after the break.
When it comes to the environment Americans apparently faces stark choice.
Not just between two sets policy proposals but two different visions of how the world works.
In the end however it may come down to your idea of progress.
And your faith in mankind.
To overcome the toughest problems.
Under construction in the Mojave Desert in eastern California.
A massive solar energy installation designed to help that state.
Meet a mandate to generate a third of its electricity from green sources 121.
It's one of at least seventeen solar and wind projects covering hundreds of thousands of acres.
Green lighted with loan guarantees.
By the Obama energy and interior departments in the south ones.
To President Obama these massive installations.
Together with -- billions of dollars more to promote all sorts of green technologies.
And a big down payment on the most soaring promise of this 2008 campaign.
Golf and began to flow and our planet began in the field.
You put ninety billion dollars.
Inches in the green jobs and these businesses.
Many of them go out of business but in their first debate.
Republican nominee Mitt Romney attacked the president's green agenda more than once you don't just pick the winners and losers you -- the losers.
And a lot of the environmental debate today is over how much we know how much we can -- And what we should do about it if we do know Charles -- senior fellow at the Claremont institute and the author of a new book.
Examining Obama's place in the American progressive movement.
You have progressives who think that we're in a position.
Know much more about.
The future of nature the future of the planet.
Than ordinary people.
I think we can know people like buzz -- -- -- Mozart did it actually we'll make quiet group or -- -- They're trying to cure because all have a stop them -- to go and welcome to West Virginia coal country.
-- people still in the homes.
Moving away from the state where should you move away from my own folks you're saying Obama's green agenda.
Threatens their way of life do you just feel that the industry is under attack.
So yes but the Obama administration sees a much bigger problem that needs solving right now.
Does it make any sense to pretend.
Climate change isn't happening and hope we can deal with it later.
Those -- a dozen such certitude about global warming.
Explains why EPA administrator Lisa Jackson has restricted greenhouse gas emissions through regulation.
Held up or -- permits for mines and impose new more stringent rules on coal fired power plants.
Even in the middle of the Great Recession.
Is there any evidence that there harming the economy.
And none nuns and don't that I am aware of.
It's just not right West Virginia State senator -- Kirk and all insists she's flat out wrong you're a West Virginia Democrat.
Do you feel abandoned by this White House do over -- it but when we spoke in the summer.
He wasn't so sure about Mitt Romney either.
He has a history of speaking out about global warming he was -- that first governor's side cap and trade you think his support for Cole was.
Sincere that's that's a tough question.
I talked to a lot of hope it's all.
-- and they hate president Obama's policies but you know what they're also.
Really wary of governor wrong I don't think there's a lot of reason to be worried about governor and tell you this those of us wouldn't vote for him.
Do everything we can hold his feet to the fire.
To make sure that our economy is unleashed.
In other words mark -- and suggests -- economic growth that will generate environmental solutions.
Not the other way around.
Bjorn -- -- -- That's how real progress happens.
The trick is not to believe this is about having government mandate specific.
-- -- say this is where we shouldn't say this is how we should do it.
This is what we want out of it focused on broad based innovation not a specific mandates and you -- -- Which way to strategy the reverse progress.
Or one the builds on.
Voters will decide.
This debate is far from over.
While the results of November's elections won't end it.
They will nonetheless set America on a four year course that could profoundly affect people in this country.
And around the world.
Only distant generations may know if and how the chosen course protected the plan.
But we and our children.
Will know soon if they helped or hurt our way of line.
That's our program Brett there.
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