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Tom Ricks the author of the general -- to talk -- George Casey at the time in Iraq who has to fit.
Who you have picture there with the Donald Rumsfeld in the book.
He was fired by George W.
Bush -- you praised him what was the disconnect there.
Can you did a good man.
He was a conventional general.
Who began to realize the conventional approach wasn't working and he tried to operate on conventionally but he really wasn't educated to do it.
He didn't know how to do it.
And he kept on doing the same thing in eventually.
After many of some of the -- George W.
Bush realize that just listen to your general wasn't working.
And so he fired but it was only after that was the December 2000.
Six before George Bush.
So you know I really need to do something different here -- he started getting different advice and that's when he picked David Petraeus who was not a popular general in the army.
To go -- Iraq.
Who -- the people now leading or military.
That are the good guys and -- that we do or do let me rephrase the question do we have a good bunch of leaders now in the military.
If we do we have some -- -- great captains.
Great battalion commanders -- lieutenant colonels he with the Greek colonels but I think.
By the time the you become a general into the is military it's pretty tough to be an independent thinker and also with the government prepared.
A lot of our generals are trying but not educated the differences -- trying for the note for the -- -- expected.
You get educated for the unknown but he ambiguous typical complex situation that requires you to think.
And those kind of think here's another.
You know a few general matter.
Who you may be -- it -- could have got a reputation.
Here's a -- so that crazy stuffed in the bringing religion into it and.
No -- bring religion into a better spot killing him to.
A lot of people pleasing he's like killing people -- it if you like killing people we supplement that yeah yeah -- -- -- talks about.
-- format Pepsi -- and the American people I think need to hear I don't think it was crazy.
I think the American people no longer understand what the military does they've got -- percent of the the nation going out there fighting our wars for over a decade.
99% ignoring them it's good to have a general occasionally grab the American people by the lapel and say you were sending your young men and women have to kill people need to understand.
Just dictated by the secretary defense for -- -- Rumsfeld was accused of wanting to light a military to do the job in Iraq and how much powered as a general have in the light of in the face of someone like -- Rumsfeld.
-- so it was a real problem for the general -- really disagreed with him if -- was a micro manager but at the same time he was kind of indecisive.
That drove them -- They loved Bob gates as secretary of defense by the way picked by George Bush and capped -- by President Obama.
We -- -- like gates is because he was decisive.
Frequently you don't want the best possible decision you just need a decision now people -- -- system today -- military operations have a whole lot better than an a plus decision amongst.
We have a presidential election in less than a week as a matter who the next commander in chief -- whether we keep the current commander in chief this.
I think it matters enormously.
And my personal opinion that the Romney would be disastrous precedent.
-- -- understand anything about the military and it surprises me for something should be a fiscal conservative.
What he talked about the military the only -- -- -- the throwing money at it.
The military -- need more money you need more leadership.
Do we think that Barack Obama who rose from state senator to senator with not a lot of national experience prior to becoming president is -- what why would we think he.
Although we said now four years as president but -- if he were on the verge of his presidency why -- we think he would be a good commander in chief.
I think he's done pretty well it does worry me.
In one aspect which is I don't like the narrowness of -- national security team.
All these people come out of the congress Obama was a Senator Biden was -- Senator Hillary Clinton with a senator.
Panetta was a member of congress and the people they have around the national security advisor whereabouts of kill -- and political hacks that narrowness.
Is very worrisome to me it reminds me a little bit.
The people around John F.
Kennedy during the beginning of the Vietnam.
-- more comfortable with him -- with Romney against.
Market but I think Romney basically will say whatever he thinks you have to -- to become president this straight start with a male.
We've learned that Thomas -- I thank you very magical and -- with us tonight vessel W -- -- -- -- -- -- so much time -- the book is called the generals.
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