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And welcome to FOX News Sunday panel plus -- Brit Hume Joseph Trippi Karl Rove and jobs felony.
Well just about everything has been sad and up till now I'd say it hasn't been said by everybody but after today I think it's actually been -- by everybody it's time to go vote but.
Let me do look a few -- -- this -- you guys depending on what what turns out.
The president loses.
Bubble the pundits say is there anything he could or should have done differently or it was -- just.
The facts of his record on the economy the business -- two things entity that -- the economic policies didn't do enough good news.
To present them to group and had to bring a robust recovery unless the economy blue lags.
And dragged him down a second -- that many will say is that the president had the opportunity.
After -- food trying ten mid term to make a course correction in terms of policies.
And like Bill Clinton but as Bill Clinton did.
We all know where that led for him.
-- obviously he was helped by robust economy but nonetheless.
They'll say that that he should have made the turn and it -- he'd been marginalized.
Himself to some extent by staying.
Who throw leftist senator that he might have and that between those two things he was done for.
Is there anything in this campaign -- that you think.
And again this is just assuming that he loses that he could or should have done differently.
And what about this this decision which they basically made -- a year ago August after the collapse of the debt talks.
And we're gonna go to the left I'm going to be the protectors of the middle -- that's going to be our line from now to election night.
-- -- I think you've President Obama loses it's going to be the first debate I mean everybody.
Is in the party I think at least it's gonna say it was the first debate that he had a chance there to.
Romney out of the race he was on the verge of being out of the race and and he didn't didn't take it and I think that does go to.
To use another.
Setup of that debate was routes that where they've run such negative ads against Romney did when he showed up with their first debate -- wasn't.
You know blood wasn't coming down from his is little mouth and he wasn't following.
That that actually helped Romney in a lot of ways so I think.
I think it's a set up to the first debate I think most Democrats -- if Obama was I don't think you will but that he does that's where you have an explanation satisfies you from talking to your friends inside the White House in the campaign as to why he did so -- absolutely don't although there's been a lot of history of fellow presidents through the first in the first debate showing up look like that Reagan had a horrible first debate -- -- and -- came.
W bush not so good in 2004 but I'm not convinced enough gas.
Stability and bring in I.
Well you know was that that gets know what was I guess on his back is a bad tailoring job follow -- -- please tell you they had -- gizmo back and rocket hit it it'd get a little stocks.
Knew I had to have been let's flip it around if yes Romney loses what will the naysayers second -- That convention speech could it have been better.
But look it's hard to defeat incumbent president and and one or two things is gonna -- we're gonna have one of those rare moments in which.
We defeated incumbent president particularly -- -- think about this how many times that we defeated a president who took over after eight years.
Of the other party -- in an office I mean Jimmy Carter.
And did before him Grover Cleveland so this doesn't happen very often.
On the other hand I do I do think that that.
You know pres Obama this election should be if he had cheated shifted course embraced Erskine Bowles of Bowles Simpson.
-- tax reform center left tax reform.
The focus of 2011 where you've got the debt ceiling out of the way in in November December of cameras in the making a political battle.
He he'd be cruising to reelection.
Do you think that I mean there's -- there is some.
Narrative out there ideas where the -- -- it's that and that.
What you guys and this -- and the independent groups did to Kerry.
In August of 2004.
On on those swift boating that in a sense.
That's what Obama did between April and August of this year that it is or something Romney could've done more effectively as he was getting.
Hammered on -- and I know he had a money problem because he he had spent all of those but his primary money.
But as he was getting hammered on but on Bain and taxes and all those things as easily could've done more thought -- It -- he could have but it but here's the deal the first debate I think -- -- -- first debate washed that away.
Mean if you take a look at the -- with the outside groups did was keep.
The focus on Obama's economic record and made it even more -- you compare.
President Obama's rating on the economy at the beginning -- -- may fifteenth -- and that they August 31 break.
And he is worse on the economy and it is a bigger issue.
And all the things that he was being attacked on -- -- -- jobs spending and so forth Affordable Care Act.
The negatives have grown up knows now of negatives have grown on Romney but Romney -- very adept to that first debate and sort of basically showing up showing -- he was Ernest.
With a plan cared about people seem to be highly credible and just blew that 250 million dollar for the campaign advertising largely.
Jeff I'm sure you've -- to think about a big you know with the article you're gonna have to -- if Obama loses its if Romney loses.
If Romney loses because we had two -- the other side.
What are you gonna say team that was a key moment in this campaign.
I think some people -- -- wonder.
And if he loses Ohio narrowly if he loses Hamilton county and happens the election just what would have happened if he would have picked Rob Portman.
As his running mate because he's obviously from an Atlanta a difference I don't know but it depends how much should be a margin as an Hamilton County Cincinnati I think overall.
The selection of -- cut from congressman Ryan.
-- was very helpful in the moment in.
-- and those of months of August for the days of August when if people weren't that excited Republicans weren't that excited about the Romney campaign but I think.
If if the whole presidency happens depends on some votes.
He -- Hamilton County Ohio.
I think a lot of people say -- -- to wonder what to Rob Portman went -- but in the end I think Rob Portman actually has been a bigger help to the Romney campaign.
Prepping him for those debates and sort of advising him on strategies -- a real key player here behind the scenes are.
And I I I.
Warren -- -- -- -- time I'm gonna ask -- a political trivia question I think you'll agree it's a fair question I'll be very curious if you can answer.
When was the last time the New York Times.
Endorsed a Republican for president of the United States and the year I do not have an answer to that -- -- worked there for six years to come from Nebraska and since I didn't reading it I know that they have not -- from but I do not -- in the last -- yes I'm calling -- Friday yeah.
-- -- fascinating fact is that you can dot com it's not out announcer we now down.
Done done done done done done I don't know them have no idea you have an idea no 52 or 56 I night.
Tonight there was a good Dwight David Eisenhower in 1956.
Not a single Republican in 56 years.
And some Republicans are probably glad about that quickly it didn't anticipate.
Well if it doesn't as a nobody got no heart attack -- the shot.
Thank you hello will see -- -- home in Washington next Sunday let us know what you think about all the best.
And as I say we'll see on election night and the next -- Well.