What help was available in Benghazi?
What could have been done?
- Duration 8:16
- Date Nov 5, 2012
What could have been done?
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All right retired US army colonel and Fox News military analyst David Hunt.
And former CIA operative Mike Baker join me in New York City.
Our gentlemen thanks so much for being with us this evening.
The first thing I want to talk about now that we know that you know there was this cable on August 16.
You know basically saying you know -- Qaeda is in the region were scared we need more protection more security.
But we now know that the White House situation room was watching in real time as this unfolding.
I want to take a look now at who was in the White House situation who -- and -- a bullets to see what was going on in Ben -- You've got you've got the department's state.
Security officers on the phone to the state it to their -- state operation center that goes directly situation room he had -- drone up -- up.
-- and I guess for another drawn up here at CIA operations guys and -- -- talking.
And and that and you -- guys on court so we have audio visual and calls -- that in real time and satellite satellite and the drone.
OK so who's watching -- I was unfolding before their eyes and as as the colonel said.
You know -- -- this balloon goes up.
You've got Langley for the CIA you've got State Department you got that White House situation there all screaming for information.
And so you have the the chief of base and then guys need to the degree that he can't you've got that did did TV station in Tripoli you've got the regional security officer -- the State Department in Tripoli there are also -- this information back a position to drone overhead at a certain point.
The clarity is quite good this was a -- provide information on their terminals that they can watch as this on for.
Sorry to anyone UN access that's -- -- that it at the computer.
Could see this in real time into the third embassy -- Rollins going up in smoke so -- -- -- -- and now -- -- -- come back into is that there's a lot troubled Middle East everybody's watching ballistic.
All right so now let's talk about besides the fact that.
The question really should be who didn't know right what was going on -- what -- did everybody knew OK let's talk about the military assets that were in the area.
That could've gotten too big guy thing let's start -- that I -- sixteen.
There's an important point here to lead this software -- as as we talk about this which is that in very short order the White House knew.
That we were not getting a counter assault.
Support from the Libyans themselves so we knew as this thing was beginning to unfold that the Libyans are friends.
We're doing nothing to provide some.
What does -- with 6:43 in the morning it's bet that -- an end and from the poll a month before that it was being infiltrated.
So this Libyan militia they said they call for help the militia well -- almost yeah.
But I we can we -- we've been going that women who work for eleven years with the dozen military intelligence committee -- to do is react to a firefight in another country.
So we had been shot we had jets F sixteens very very accurate and ability on the ground from the CIA to call the -- And to pinpoint their all right can pinpoint -- -- F sixteens to carry fast moving jet what's on it it's got it's got.
Guns it's got bombs Verisign that's very exited out and -- and and they can go very specific target if if they have somebody pointing out.
But the one -- very fast and very available within 25 minutes it got it over the -- And you've got the resource is as you using in this graphic you've got the resource is in the read all -- now the important thing here is we've got this this this attack is unfolding.
The agency the CIA has person on the ground global response staff.
These guys including designs were outside and they did not there to provide long term.
Defensive capability they are there to hold off the hot styles until the calvary Shalala and the covenant is -- that count wrongly will show up.
And these guys -- guys did a phenomenal job all their heroes of the date they reacted with side arms.
Against the bottom 125 guys actually rescued two people -- the problem that -- -- to back them up all right we're going to.
Let's talk about the F sixteen with the -- -- capability.
We know that there were some of them BI -- in northern Italy and we say it would take.
The 25 minutes is that from -- now -- or from out beyond.
Here's a -- talent they removed if remove the airport aircraft which they did -- kind of signal I think in about 25 minute flight to get OPEC target -- first attack comes in at 940 guys they know about it immediately.
Yes right yes OK yeah 45 minutes later as a few minutes after ten the fight goes on how what.
-- the fight goes on for a nine hour right front of his two -- I don't if you -- the first the first waves when you lose Stephens.
And the other athletic department Smith.
It's the second wave stuff and I was -- what you lose it to see what it but it doesn't matter because we know that once he attacks starts again.
We know that we've got a very short period of time for this for a bit on the ground are CIA people to have some type of counter assault effort to try to hold off the -- until the military -- and we know again the Libyans are providing support to help us so at that point immediately.
You have to try and we have the F -- -- -- -- out how and we could have gotten into the bank Gaza yes more long before the second wave if not.
The first wave gets an -- yes and I only knew what you want to go he would give an OK and they weren't given and they kept asking for a lot of photo an AC 130.
What is an AC 130 C 130 is a C 130 with a 105 millimeter cannon -- Gatling gun and the ability to you know.
Can't -- football field at mile -- an amazing it's slow moving aircraft.
It and it we have people on the ground is easy again.
Who could've called it and that's within two hours away well that's what woods kept calling for didn't what's -- -- for in a statement of the first well.
Yes because we we had ordered two of our guys were up on the on the rooftop they -- identified.
Eddie House opposition's.
They were anticipating they were hoping off as war -- -- remember it's not just -- -- the two guys up on the rooftop that we're talking about trying to save.
It's the thirty plus they came out of the consulate that they rescued that -- -- rescued.
All those people that apparently the White House said well I don't know maybe you'll be taken -- -- -- -- you'll you'll die in the in the attack but you know we're not gonna try.
Thanks you guys are moving the people who consulate.
Under fire at night down -- their base for and need this military cover.
Which is available it -- wound to help them and didn't get your at -- let's get some of the benefit of the doubt and I don't like giving wires the benefit of the doubt but.
Let's assume that they were worried about maybe collateral damage they still have lowered the F -- sixteens to make a lot of noise and disperse the crowd here.
Yeah is on a fly over to an end to an end and again.
This is the part that's so frustrating and disingenuous and honestly.
I don't know how anybody who's been in the military or an Intel community and operations overseas how they can understand -- process what the White House.
-- -- and sank where they say we just didn't have enough information the we -- a lot of information we had we had we had visual and audio information again we've been fighting for eleven years in in Iraq and Afghanistan we not do that.
It's all right let's pull up the next screen we heard about delta force being moved from Central Europe.
To -- I'm.
-- -- and talk to me about delta four don't.
Authorities the army's field teams sexist supports operation dubbed delta -- they're they're the best we have in the army but again people will recognize it.
Because until 26 same type of organization counterterrorism there were training in Europe trading in -- actually.
And they got the call and -- -- just taking -- which gives them about two and a half -- -- to get to Ben -- along with.
Charlie company first ten special forces group from normal -- organization end a marine.
Forward area support team that these are these that train Marines to do exactly what they would.
Not allowed and they couldn't -- -- no one gave you permission to go out and and Panetta has said why have a great deal of respect for Leon Panetta now the secretary of defense you've been very good at the agency as a director.
But he's come on I think he's -- -- for the administration has got to study saying that you know we didn't have enough information we can't deployed troops in harm's way that's what -- therefore that's what they train for that's what they expect to be dropped into harm's way without a perfect and why didn't they don't need to to pack a bag it for 24 hour that you just don't -- -- -- -- if you -- if you wait for all the international bad things happen of course of course and what Senator McCain just said.
The military's worried now.
Look -- -- anyway Mike -- CIA colonel David Hunt they -- so much for being with us thank you explain -- we're gonna do more that in the future are right.