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Good morning I am.
Doug -- -- -- my friend and colleague.
Pat -- we are campaign insiders and we're here with the first.
Post election show to try to analyze and explain what happened yesterday.
-- elections that mark the reelection of the president United States with what is now I think.
303 electoral votes approximately 50% of the popular vote to governor Romney's 48% those figures to change but they are likely.
To change by much but we have one of the preeminent experts in -- -- -- On American political trends and life and -- I think the best the most appropriate way to begin is with you what happened and why.
Well what happened was is if you look at the exit polls and you gotta be a little careful we have that these -- numbers have been so badly massage.
Defeated but look we look looks like we have an electorate that looks like much like 2000 today.
I think the president's ground game first of all you can see the impact everywhere.
That they had we have made if you do look at the exit polls you know you have a more actually liberal -- The big gap between liberals and conservatives which is.
120 -- points.
National and every poll -- exists was painless was -- was only 1025 to 35 rather than the twenty to forty right reporters there you go okay.
No that means that Dietrich you know this disproportionate -- -- but here's some of the things -- really interest me.
You know if you look fifty questions.
Even though the Republicans.
He -- full soft which we've discussed the need for the public to brand the question of -- Big government more government or less government that was about a ten point margin for smaller government.
The economy -- -- -- number two numbers are you at all.
All -- number of people who said that the economy was poor.
And what's not and was staying the same Barack Obama got 38% of that vote.
Can't prepare and then on the question of -- -- Romney was he for the middle class of the rich 5435.
For the rich.
And on all the dimensions she won leadership -- have better vision cares about people like me.
On back to mention Obama one gigantic -- some for some of the voters who who who picked.
So you know this is we senator Romney won on the other dimensions are yes you won only one on the dimensions of vision.
He won on the dimensions of -- would do better on the economy.
And and so you're saying that an election that was about the economy ultimately was not about the -- exactly.
By the way on the issue all on people who said the deficit was the biggest issue it's only a couple points difference for rob.
-- cut the economies for.
Look this is what I'm saying is everything you have said -- the failure of the Romney campaign in the Republicans a moment about something -- said something you said.
I mean you've -- all ended very emphatic about it then and we've agreed and it did John I've agreed -- We've been concerned abroad mean not having a large visionary network and -- it.
And then at the same time of what I've been also outside new agreement is allowing themselves to be attacked the Obama campaign's.
Assault on them the failure of the Republicans to explain the economy and offer a plan.
Not now but before June.
I think helps seal this in the third piece I have to say is.
Dropping Libya taking a dive in third debate holding the ball because the Romney campaign once again the worst campaign in history.
Except for ninety minutes with John let's say ninety bereavement we will have John and his enemies with us but -- that I let me and that meant they had no count or after the they had no -- -- to put pressure on John.
If you could -- your views.
Welcome via Skype from.
You're home alone -- so how did you see -- last night.
Morning -- morning that morning.
I agree with what you've both said but I don't go farther and other things.
Factor in that was -- and something you said a while ago the Republican brand is absurd it's bad it's been hurt by.
Richard Murdoch and Todd take in and all the nutty stuff that's -- -- And Romney himself in the primary it's moving themselves so far to the right and immigration.
You remember one night we were wrong.
Together on foxnews.com.
Been one of the debates and we had a a nice woman on.
From some black Latino.
Thank -- do she she did a poll thank you did some -- -- thing and she said what but you guys don't understand original Latin community.
The Republican to phone -- the way they talk about Hispanics and talked to them is perceived as hostile to them.
And that was that the comment about self esteem or rotation somewhere underneath and he never was able to get beyond that among Hispanics he didn't pick rubio -- his running -- -- it made no effort.
That there's so many things that one on the wrong the wrong I didn't pick in retrospect did not that do think it's helpful.
That the picked Portman like we thought and Doug.
-- picked rubio like you mentioned that.
It better shot in Florida better shot or -- -- at a real federation I don't know why that there's so many things you know and there really works for ninety minutes it is a good candidate the rest of the campaign -- -- history as it is all three disastrous depressed saying.
-- -- just awful and what I want at that three of us on the back.
Because we told it the way we saw it every week for a year and a half.
And I'm not gonna mention under it's -- abundance.
But we've seen the wall we know humble who said the -- he's gonna when 330 electoral votes 350 at all.
They were all wrong we were right we've been right all along not to brag on ourselves but.
We saw the way it -- you want to win you've got to run a better campaign against an incumbent president and he did not.
The obvious ailment has put everything on the on the supplement and the break them.
You know when you lose.
What -- -- the branding and we you know last night I use the phrase when.
That I thought did we may be watching the -- party and as slow motion -- party demise here.
The you know when you cannot reach.
We -- getting killed with women single women particularly.
You're losing Hispanics overwhelmingly -- John's point I set a focus group in California early this year in which Hispanic voters.
Were entirely up -- too much deficit too much regulation.
Whatever to -- -- that you mentioned how would you ever consider voting for Republicans and they -- people think I was crazy.
This you know when you bring -- them away if John said when you've created look at the senate it's not just the presidency.
Even bigger to me is the fact that would be women with 23 democratic seats up out of 33.
And twelve of them were in deep danger and the Democrats have picked up seats in the -- Well -- would be look I share both to your views I have.
I'm gonna make a very simple comment on -- -- which I think is right.
But if you think about the billions of dollars that were spent on -- packets.
If the Republicans have taken.
A small fraction of 30%.
And said we are Republicans this is what we stand this is the countries we hope to create.
Something that would -- offered a vision.
However elemental simplistic or direct I think the Republican Party would have done.
Extremely well I'll give you an example which I had both some personal interest in but I think is illustrative.
There was an independent in name.
Was elected to the surfers -- pure independent.
And I think a hundred years got 52% of the vote always said was I'm not them.
I'm different -- but he's gonna end -- back plays the -- caucus of the Democrat he's -- you know he's gonna have to caucus was somebody that doesn't well but that's the problem.
We have a system where if you wanna committee -- and it isn't worth debating it and where -- arguing about but suffice it to say we're here talking about the electorate.
And the electorate is looking.
I believe and I think John and -- you believe.
For bipartisan cooperation.
To solve problems and a vision as opposed to our vision -- -- that's your most important thing I think -- say.
Country out there.
For what is essentially a senator said -- road centrist right.
Well on fiscal hard on fiscal issues and you know and fairly.
Oliver and libertarian -- libertarian right.
I John will move where do you come out.
Well and you know I'm back to where we were a year ago the three of us we were calling them there should be a third candidate running but that 70%.
-- just mentioned -- sitting there and it was there all this year and it never happened no one obviously -- and I think we start thinking about it again from 26 team.
As I know what's coming I mean I know what's gonna happen on the right the blame game blah blah blah we're gonna hear Jeb Bush and 4016 and you guys are gonna hear Hillary.
Back to the bushes and the clintons again.
Answers that never -- that's what we're gonna hear.
Well -- -- -- John you're right I think because you know you would that's what people talk about.
Of this electorate and -- you make from -- powerful point if the guy running is a pure independent when he actually does love about it.
We're running is pure and penny gets a bit -- the -- a lot of money -- against him whenever.
Back -- use is.
We have a country that's not represented.
Enough if it is indeed needed -- Beijing and -- getting.
And I'll tell you this you know you look at this again you've got to be able to reach people you can't have half the electric and you are right about one thing got.
The Tea Party one of these Tea Party groups announced last night they're gonna double down.
And go even harder for the right no war no war no more no more moderates you know what country has to want this.
No they don't know let me.
Before we go to break what's being -- must remember that's with two other candidates who did spend money it Democrat -- republic right.
-- so if -- get 52%.
In the three way race.
That's access some.
It does we're gonna come back in a second but first let -- or for the question will be discussing after the break.
It's -- we've been alluding to but will there be more bipartisanship.
You both in the lame duck and in the new congress that's going to be sworn in will be back in about thirty seconds with campaign insiders.
-- good morning I am Doug -- I think what you see on the screen is our question of the day on the web site.
Will there be more bipartisanship in congress we urge you to go to the website and give us.
Your answer and tell us what you think will be the result of this election in terms of bipartisanship.
But John Mobley day.
Do you think we will see more -- bipartisanship.
Well I think the next two months we start the lame duck session.
Next Wednesday have -- today I think I heard and for that period with the -- Clinton.
Approach -- I do think.
There's going to be some bipartisanship.
To dig ourselves out of this immediate catastrophe that we that they created brightness sequestration -- all.
The extension of the bush tax cuts.
I think for the short term they're gonna make some deals with the country -- -- the markets like the world life.
I'm not so sure about next year with the Tea Party group in the house that you don't want to talk to hear you told me a few weeks ago he -- where they're -- how they're gonna read these results.
I think I know that John Boehner.
It is part of ours wants to make the grand bargain what Obama and I think he was getting close to your -- -- doing it.
Until Eric Cantor and the Tea Party -- found out about it and -- in any of that and you're done.
I at least I -- an open minded about where they're at now they get -- have that same adamant -- about it or they can assault on hopeful that's what I don't.
-- your sense I don't know I mean Baylor this -- have.
I think the president is going to look the president's commander Manuel -- -- -- this forum he said he's got to go to support tax increase.
You know -- president is evolving -- -- moved on that I think it's hard for their caucus to move on that.
The president is one he's going to demand that.
He is an and so I think John may be right maybe -- fashion something next month or so so we don't -- the clip.
But I'm not my lawn the long term prospects I don't think -- good I I think the president will have problems because.
This is a very tactical victory.
And you know a lot of these from the only leave -- comment we got here from one of our people on the chat.
I am trying to its IVs.
Regardless of who you support -- whatever arguments -- for against the other guy.
Everyone was spot on except that Obama understood best that America is like a microorganism.
In its tomography.
And that treating this organize them with political -- medicine meant that different prescription for each part of the body.
In this case the electors are very Smart comment is -- not -- on the move where it.
I think so I mean you have the -- -- my shoulder I have my auto bailout to make my shoulder feel better right right over here my Hispanic arm hurts but I'm gonna give.
Amnesty to the children of illegals so my arm feels better.
And I've got some women here in my heart I'm going to be very pro choice every week that's a good -- looking.
OK let me -- other comment.
I've never felt as if my vote did not count as much as I do.
Did today it said that each and every vote does not count each and every voice goes on hurt in this day and -- the electoral.
Vote needs to go I rather have some win.
In the country we live I'd rather have someone.
The country we'd have had people actually voted for it.
In office rather than someone the politicians put their -- it.
We were a country that we should be heard as a whole not segregated.
John what do you make of that -- I don't but I mean I'm sorry I thank disguised prelude Obama side of things Republican he's unhappy.
What I -- today because time is it five out of the last six presidential elections.
Have who lost the popular vote.
He directs us from ninety to 962002008.
My five of the last six Republicans have lost the popular vote now we did win two of them.
Because of the electoral vote in 2000 -- and then he didn't get the -- -- ordinarily.
The 2004 if anything electoral vote is -- Republicans we've got to face up the fact we're losing national elections.
And I don't want James Carville to be right.
That we're not gonna win again when he served for forty years a lot of -- all we've got to reform ourselves or get rid of the Republicans.
Get a new party a new leader.
Get -- You know I think John you know you look back at some of the specifics of this through the bubble at these and you know the president managed to get.
You know we've said all along you get peace and hang hung up 50% reasonable -- -- among the people actually voted approval rating you don't beat you look at the minute you look at the north.
Wouldn't it there would be the Catholics in the -- the inability of the northern former governor to crack.
Any state in the industrial belt.
Is is -- able -- -- so much -- the west on I am one of those guys who believes that simple explanations usually.
Are more compact full -- the more elaborate explanations and to me.
There was no alternative vision like alternative offer governor -- today.
-- it was a bit candidate but you can be a -- candidate with a good message if I am elected here's what I will do here's what I will give you here's what I will provide some.
Sad to think I tend to think good candidates have good messages that candidates aren't look I -- together you know I mean you what you work for the last really great candidate.
He but I will tell you this Obama.
I do not think was a particularly good candidate not this time -- he was nasty and it was hard she was defensive.
But that they as the -- person suggested they he played his hand I thought John particularly well are you -- yeah I thought.
Here we we always send to and took on our show or to each other -- to -- -- goes on -- -- -- -- that.
Given a bad record is his first term as his presidency in a bad record.
Bad economy is campaign was to increase the job blocking this -- right close and ahead.
They Graham they've -- -- the initiative in this campaign they held it all the way being -- opera program.
They gambled that they can make Romney unacceptable or at least not -- did have a program that was taxing the -- help the middle class -- not a real or no program limited we are going we have written and the fact is -- as you know we've said this week we've gone from open changed -- -- carpet there will be consequences.
About governing I guarantee -- But I just want to say I'm sorry job.
-- I just want to say look we cannot ignore the fact that we said how many times over how many months.
Did we say this is Romney's campaign to lose and he's losing it.
-- except for the debate and that's the truth and his you've got to look at this is this campaign whereas you know they rewarded twice or staff.
They -- and in their consultants and whatever and I must say about the Republican consultants of the group.
What a disaster.
They produce all that money all -- up and Doug did you said didn't produce a messenger work.
And they're -- they're now -- saying -- -- we were great.
There's only one point John we'd -- you've made it before that I would like to underscore before we go to our closing comments.
It's that everybody lives in -- an intellectual bubble if you're Republican.
You believe the orthodoxy if you're a Democrat.
You believe the orthodoxy we hear it campaign insiders try to tell the truth as we know it without fear or favor.
My own view is that the Republican consultants whereas pat suggested.
You know dead on arrival.
They did not offer a vision the Democrats had I think a flawed vision yes but it was one that they executed on extremely well.
Arguably to the detriment of the country -- the benefit of President Obama and the democratic brand in the short term.
The real question is we go forward John is can we govern what is now -- increasingly difficult country to govern.
Once question will now -- just wanna make two quick points so we're just saying that I -- running on top number one.
Before -- forget this was a winnable election the Republicans all year we knew what.
Now that Obama's one people -- gonna move on but.
Before we forgot this this whose eight blown opportunity by the Republicans a real tragedy the same why the Democrats in 2000 before.
Could -- beaten George W.
Then they should.
It always has grown -- the difference between those two elections though it's we have an election.
In which personal income is down almost 4000 dollars.
-- only an average we have an unemployment rate the highest since Franklin Roosevelt was president during a real depression.
You know this is you know you look at tees if the situation the country we have a sixteen trillion dollar debt.
And it's ended by the way -- it's not gonna get better I don't think and as long as we pursue the policies and you don't want.
The Republican should've -- this election.
And yet they know -- the -- gift she Obama campaign and Democrats credit for what they can't I think to the debt would may be well to the detriment.
Winning by winning ugly this wave in the country well the Republicans had it in they blew -- -- Look that good -- yeah I don't want unveiled what I -- -- make progress as you two guys cut your teeth and became great political pollsters.
The best in the field and the only honest forms -- that I know and we discussed -- a lot and we now saw last night that the polls as a group were exactly right.
In the popular vote in the state vote in the electoral -- that the I don't hear any more from the public only self appointed experts the balls were right.
The public was on -- don't go don't -- they've of these.
They yes they weren't but did look at this -- -- you've got a six point if this is right there it's -- on a six point you have a democratic advantage.
-- is one point less than 2008.
You've got to win your new yup but in -- whole -- right that I I would describe it sort of my final comment is it was a very good turnout.
Effort by Obama clearly it was a very good argument.
Albeit one that was narrowly framed by Obama.
But to me as I looked at this election ultimately I have to conclude what pat just said.
Which is that the absence of a compelling Republican argument brand message or approach.
Is the real issue because there's an old saying.
In sports you don't beat somebody with nobody.
And for the purposes of argument Romney was nobody John but for ninety minutes of -- news.
And the thing I would say about those ninety minutes of brilliance just to conclude my part is that it.
Was any hint of what.
Romney could have been and what the voters want and ninety minutes of it and he moved about 78 point yet how much he -- You know all the -- the president was not a real phenomenon but the thing is look -- -- is just close on a larger point our country we've done we wrote a piece.
-- winner is coming I believe the crisis in the country is not gonna go way it's -- -- of what we are missing is.
Decisive we have a -- tonight today we have a Republican.
How's it may be bigger than it was a democratic senate that is -- and a president barely reelected if the same government.
In a huge majority of Americans look at that government in Washington are against it.
And they've had no choice about re -- And that is lawless that's a restriction -- the choice then we are not gonna have a larger vision and we need and somebody comes along with a vision.
This could move them again campaign insiders has a vision and we will be back here.
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