Is a Republican civil war looming?
Juan Williams and Mary Katharine Ham on the future of the GOP
- Duration 6:56
- Date Nov 8, 2012
Juan Williams and Mary Katharine Ham on the future of the GOP
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Continuing now -- our lead story what is next for the Republican Party.
Media types including those who are quite friendly to Democrats.
Are analyzing the GOP's future in light of its failure to oust President Obama and then some are actually predicting it.
A civil war.
So give me your bottom line on -- Republicans now we talked about the soul searching what did they do next soul searching perhaps civil war -- you gotta look at this party right now.
They have one.
The popular vote only once since 1988.
In the presidential in the presidential race and it was probably best summed up by Al Cardenas head of the American Conservative Union he said the party is too old.
To wife and two -- Which.
Now Juan Williams and Mary Katharine Ham both are Fox News analysts.
All right -- let's start waiting too old too white too male I think of Harry Reid.
Does this subsection.
With the race and gender instead of ideas to be disturbing I think an African American can lose like.
Colonel Allen must looks like he lost in Florida.
I view the conservative cost.
I think -- white guys can be conservatives and win if they're good candidates and they make good ideas that are appealing Democrat Republican.
So -- -- with well the ticket has to be all white or all black or brown white.
You you nod your head you want to -- opponent ticket.
Now you're talking about racial being cut your way way lost on this what I don't get it -- -- -- I mean the reality is just look at the numbers what came out Tuesday.
And it looks like you know huge victory among whites you know for.
-- -- But he loses the election.
He had a plus 27 advantage among white man still couldn't put him in the Oval Office.
So if you're thinking of -- strategically you want Republicans to win you have to be more inclusive and especially.
With the rapidly emerging Latino population can't not Condoleezza Rice could have -- Barack Obama I don't know if she could have beat them she is closely identified with the Bush Administration you were -- -- I think they they left some baggage and -- And kind of minister visited -- -- not like President Bush they're very nice so it's not personal but I just think the policies ended up.
-- it it's confusing people about the Republican Party right they thought the Republican Party with a small government party it grew under bush it thought it was more judicious on military involvement.
It ended up getting involved into words look I support the war in Iraq I think which it went in Afghanistan -- other people find it very unpopular it hurt the Republican I heard the conservative movement has.
I think you don't get confused don't get -- -- over the world everything is racial and being out a lot look at it this way you've got to open the party's doors you got to let some pressure and you can't just yeah.
-- older white I think that older white people yeah vote fervor.
Now get an out it and you can't alienate think era are demonizing -- -- Hispanics -- bad folks you're threatening if you're coming in moderately likely.
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I find that to be highly objectionable because you never -- -- Outbid them.
And giving away free yet if the Republicans say okay Latinos according -- give you amnesty is Charles Krauthammer said.
Well that Democrats would come back and say I'll give you amnesty plus affirmative action plus you can bring all your grandparents and plus will always do one more thing instead of an economic empowerment.
-- reaching them on the course social issues that they have a lot in common with with conservatives but that bidding war -- -- that.
Yeah I agree with you I'm a conservative I do not want Republicans to be status light I don't think that works for them and it hasn't worked when we tried it in the past.
But I do think that you can be conservative you can sell that message but you -- correct both -- want are correct that you need a really good.
Messenger to bring that message and we do have to deal and I think there are two problems going on I was -- on his campaign it does look like the orca.
Get out the vote ended up being a beached whale according.
Reports and hit the other to -- a lot of white voters who could have been.
There for him were not -- and the other thing is yes in these places like Virginia Florida Colorado Hispanic voters turn out among minority better than younger voters and women.
Did build up a firewall that he would not otherwise have had in so we have to deal with and the fact is that we need to not just put folks.
Who are who can speak to that community who who might be Hispanic -- are really really great messengers for instance Marco Rubio is one of them I think cells conservatism.
Really really well.
I think that Republican party's been bad about going straight to those community go to -- public Reagan this is where we agree and it's hard to scale it might not get you -- -- voters actually while a lot of money and time you know -- you've got to get in there and try.
Married doesn't -- Barack Obama himself right in 2010.
When the Democrats are handed this big defeat right -- they have Tea Party really was resurgent somewhat.
Obama didn't say OK I'm gonna become.
I'm gonna move to the middle and I'm gonna abandon my liberal principles on the try to appeal to all these all these single people who is married people.
By being a little bit more concern instead Barack Obama said you know something we're gonna sell our massive repackage it and we're gonna connect to people -- -- human way and in its strategic way.
I think he did a brilliant job -- doing.
It let it moderated and certainly I think it I think -- -- go ahead and got.
Gonna say it I think he -- moderate -- he's -- let me come back -- -- -- -- lots of issues but let me just -- come back on -- anyone that.
You said earlier you think that when it comes to conservative values that you should not abandon him and I am not encouraging Republicans to open it I think.
Conservative values conservative principle to week.
Conservative Latino population goes to church loves Stanley loves entrepreneurship is a winning math -- Republicans have to do the.
Our -- and it.
You know Lebanon and lives in the enduring another liar you're free to acquire on that -- -- I thought it was never had been connected to those faith based opinion on the mark I really had a plan for that.
Do not -- any education issues school choice is where we can win with folks like and -- yeah.
Obviously it was Romney didn't want to really get into the nitty gritty of those issues -- play it very defensive and they thought the bad economy was gonna -- I don't think we're -- that's high quality that was that was big that was during the campaign primary season and Barack Obama himself has said all sorts of things to alienate people he's managed to triangle right away from that you didn't wanna talk about.
Public I don't know and our folks.
Absolutely I've been in the language does matter -- -- I think wants right about that Mary Katharine Juan banks and --