Petraeus scandal hits the White House
What did they know and when?
- Duration 10:44
- Date Nov 13, 2012
What did they know and when?
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Have -- -- Hannity there are new explosive developments tonight that -- raising some very serious questions about the investigation into General David Petraeus.
And why was kept secret until after the election.
Now let's begin with the news that another top military leader four star general John Allen now finds himself in the middle of this growing scandal.
Now he currently serves as the commander of US and NATO forces in Afghanistan.
And he reportedly exchanged hundreds of emails with this woman Jill Kelly the Tampa socialite who first reported to the FBI that she had been receiving.
Bizarre messages from anonymous accounts that were ultimately traced back to Petraeus biographer -- mistress Paul abroad well.
But what exactly did the emails from general -- to Kelly say.
Well senior defense officials characterize the messages as quote.
Flirtatious in nature and as quote inappropriate.
We've just learned that two US officials tell fox that it was more than just flirting one official describe some of the emails -- sexually explicit.
And the equivalent of phone sex over email.
Now Allen who was married denies a sexual affair took place but something here's not adding up and as we heard yesterday from the father of Patricia -- while quote.
This is about something else entirely and the truth will come out there's a lot more here the -- CI.
Now I'm beginning to think he may be right because of -- to believe the story that we're now being told all this started because Paul abroad -- send anonymous emails to Jill Kelly.
Now emails that according to the Daily Beast can be described as quote kind of -- Fight stuff messages that include phrases such as -- what do you think you are you parade around the base -- it taken down a notch.
Now none of them reportedly reference violence and yet the FBI launched a full investigation.
And now one of the most decorated military leaders in our history has been removed as the head of the CIA.
Essentially he has been silence just days before he was scheduled to testify before congressional investigators.
Even more concerning.
All of this unfolded before the election.
But we you were not told about it until President Obama was declared victorious.
And speaking of the White House well they are still peddling the far fetched story that the president.
Was not informed about the Petraeus affair until after Election Day oh really let's take a look.
-- this investigation going on for months how is it -- the White House didn't have any idea of this until the day after New York.
And the congress a few days where.
Well I would refer you to the FBI they have as much as I understand it protocols in place for when they notify.
The legislative and executive branches investigations.
And -- it is simply a fact.
-- The White House was not aware.
The situation regarding General Petraeus until Wednesday.
And the situation regarding general -- until Friday.
All right so the FBI knew all about this investigation and the FBI director knew all about the investigation he briefs the president at least once -- week.
But we're supposed to believe that an extramarital affair involving General David Petraeus the head of the CIA.
Never came up.
Well that's about as believable as blaming the big Gaza terror attack on -- -- trailer.
And that is exactly why we cannot let the soap opera here divert us from what is important.
Now this story is more than just a sexual failing -- man in power.
It's very much about the -- -- scandal and the Obama administration's role that David Petraeus he is a central player in the scandal.
He -- members of congress and apparently blamed the attacks on the anti Muslim video.
And calling this quote spontaneous mob violence and UN ambassador Susan Rice.
Who on the Sunday talk shows misled you the public by blaming the quote -- planned attacks on the anti Muslim video.
-- talking points came from the intelligence agency.
Is that true and if so why did it happen but also we're told the -- -- -- well had access to classified information on her computer.
If so from whom did she receive it.
We also know that late October what General Petraeus he traveled to Libya.
To conduct his own review of the -- -- attack and -- Tripoli he personally question this CIA station chief.
And other CIA personnel or in -- Ghazi on September 11 when this attack occurred.
Now they all knew this was a terror attack in southern us State Department remember they were watching all of this in real time.
But David Petraeus is not the only or -- the key actor in all of this -- we've got Hillary Clinton we've got Eric Holder and of course we have President Obama.
What did they know when did they know what.
And joining me now.
And former CIA Covert operations officer and president of diligence LLC Mike Baker gentlemen welcome to Hannity.
Thank you thanks -- I.
I think the first thing you've got to find out is that we really had an October surprise in the election we just and find out about it till November.
The situation with the General Petraeus while tragic -- -- -- I think you've said it right.
Is not really the issue -- mean it was as a horrible set of events.
But we had our chief CIA director are cheap spy for America so to speak.
Compromised the attorney general of the United States knew this in September.
And yet failed to tell the president of the United States that his CIA -- director was being investigated by the FBI.
This is it it was where it's not gonna pop did I cannot imagine we don't know that Eric Holder.
Would would have done this it makes no sense to me he did it was dereliction of duty on his part but he might not have done it that's the point he might not I mean well right.
-- may have told the president.
I mean that the White House what we're really don't know now facing our the president states and attorney general but this the question that the American people need to ask right now how is it.
That the chief of the CIA was under FBI investigation the Department of Justice not only was aware -- -- they were conducting it.
The attorney general was aware of it in September -- -- to tell the president of the United States that the president's CIA director was under an investigation.
I don't think it's plausible leader and -- nor -- I think there excuses on being Ozzie why didn't they give the added security that they requested before.
Why during the attack you know Paul brought well one of the things that she's saying here -- picture Petraeus himself.
Know that they were crying out for help at the at the consulate.
And that's what caused -- words the navy seal to not stand down after given orders and risk his career ultimately give us why -- but -- he knew Americans were in jeopardy and we're told.
Charlie -- she's watching as the real time.
Where they might.
Right and -- -- here's the tragedy this whole thing and in your focusing on -- correctly and that has been Ghazi.
We have four Americans that are dead we've got at a CIA situation that.
Is is questionable at best we've got an administration that's.
Not giving us the information.
We still don't have the facts on Ben Ghazi you've got Dianne Feinstein saying this is not right we should have this information you got Leon Panetta saying -- this investigation was going on.
The leadership of congress should have known about it as should the president the united stats might look at -- look at the entire situation and you ask myself this question.
What is really -- play here did General Petraeus admit to -- a bad act yes he did.
But other consequences for that yes his resignation was accepted the real -- -- got it again it might have to testify and Ben -- now what do you have to do subpoena them.
-- Yeah I mean I've I've been involved in counterintelligence operations in the past and he -- there's been some.
Question over you know -- -- why I was the FBI involved with the FBI got involved at the start of this I think if you look at it.
I think it's quite plausible if Jill Kelly has a friend who's a bureau field agent.
And you know that apparently the bureau field agent might -- a Jones for -- Kelly so she brings this problem to him.
And what is he -- well he's a friend any kind of pushes this thing inside the -- inside the bureau.
To get it investigated that that's kind of the way how it goes sometimes you know you have to have a network enact otherwise yeah -- it just been anybody they've been no relationship this might that it never kicked off.
Let me ask you -- -- you know what what about.
The -- wells saying Petraeus knew of capping -- he's not only plea for help.
But -- her claim that the CIA -- their annex a mile away from the consulate that they were holding.
Libyan -- the militia which may have precipitated all of this so that the you know this is what the president he was able to skate for two months.
And not get asked by this biased abuse -- biased news media in this country in the lead up to the selection.
About it you know what they're holding prisoners where was the president what -- -- did he know about requests for help that he know about what was happening that night.
Why any go to Vegas why -- -- -- for two weeks after.
This is the not a terror attack I don't think so what we knew was a terror attack in real time.
-- it was no secret nested insecurity problems -- -- today that would you know there was security prompts -- -- who was who was established that facility.
You know over a year ago when the dust settled on the revolution.
So there was no there was no surprise there it there was -- isn't there a failure that was an administrative and logistical failure.
To put in place -- security procedures that needed to be there to protect US personnel overseas so that that that part needs to be addressed is that it does not how about that.
The idea that perhaps in ideas there's all sorts of of conspiracy I don't ask you how much how did you but not but I.
-- last legal question only because were running at a time.
It we've got to get to the fundamentals here who knew what went right what -- they know when did they know it.
What if we find out the president of the United States lied because I believe I do not believe.
That he did not know what was going on I do not believe two weeks after when everybody knew that this was not related to that YouTube video.
I do not believe what do you say to the American people if he -- what does that mean.
Well if you -- a consequence of the course would be significant including possible impeachment if he -- but -- there's another question here it's not just if you -- the question is -- the attorney general the United States knew this information which you clearly we now know -- regarding that the situation -- David Petraeus he -- know.
We had our national security compromise just because of this activity going on and you -- the president of the United States communicating with the CIA director that's under an FBI investigation.
And I understand that these things can start internally but the fact of the matter is this investigation reached the attorney general of the United States and he doesn't tell the president doesn't.
Makes sense doesn't make sense a lot of this does make sense that -- gonna come out.
One way or the other they -- -- all they cannot -- -- they can delay it's coming out guys thank you for being with us and coming up tonight Liz Cheney will join us so.