Next steps in escalating conflict near Israel, Gaza border
All-Star panel weighs in
- Duration 6:39
- Date Nov 16, 2012
All-Star panel weighs in
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Let me be clear.
The -- will not tolerate rocket and missile tests on some of civilians.
I hope to Hamas and the other terror organizations in Gaza got the message.
If Israel is prepared to do what ever action is necessary.
To defend our people.
Prime minister Netanyahu leaving no doubt Israel will not follow Wright continued shelling from Gaza and we're back now with a panel I think -- Have to say it's a -- the shelling they the missiles from.
Gaza have continued today Israel is now called up thousands of reservists.
Raise in the real possibility of an invasion and a ground war between Israel and the Palestinians in Gaza.
And -- just now we have learned that the president and Israeli prime minister Netanyahu.
Had a telephone conversation this evening -- release from the White House.
It says the two leaders discussed options for.
What do you think of the chances -- situation will.
It's not in the hands of Obama it's not in the hands of the United States.
The who obviously otherwise he started this with a 150 rockets shot in a few days shortly after Election Day.
That's -- it because they -- Israel has no interest in attacking.
Guys have but it had to retaliate because this population was being attacked so rise Hezbollah involved in this it's asserting itself as -- strategic equal.
No -- the weak sister her party's strongest Hezbollah could show and it's got rockets and a jump from five rocket.
From Iran would surprise the Israelis.
By reaching Jerusalem which has emitted by a rocket since 1970.
He knows it has Egypt is a very strong ally behind it.
In the past each it was neutral floor quietly pro Israel the egyptians and Muslim Brotherhood.
Is making very strong threats against Israel.
So it's -- and in that way.
Turkey a former Israeli ally is now pro -- so it is strategic situation the region has changed radically.
And what Hamas wants to show is that it is the leader of the Palestinians.
When its rival Fatah.
Led by Abu mas and is going to the UN.
Like a supplicant and try to get a seat in the UN and Hamas is saying we have the defenders of Jihad of the homeland.
We can stand up against the Israelis and we can make their Mark -- the United States.
Ask for a.
Fred what do you think of the chances that.
And we could be talking this weekend that the Israelis go over the border we got a full scale ground war well the first thing is the Israelis do not want to do that.
They know what the situation is they know what happened the last time they send troops into Gaza the the world with the exception of of the United States -- jumps on them as if it's all their fault even though it is clear as Charles said.
That Hamas started this you know there is you did there is an issue.
That does involve the United States directly.
He jumped which gets what.
Eight trillion or two trillion dollars a year from the US and -- may not -- billion.
A billion okay one again -- what I meant yes sorry.
I'm not we're not that John I'm done so you have to say trillion -- is there any case.
A huge amount of money and Egypt is there supporting a country.
But we're Brothers supporting Hamas in its attack on Israel and the spokesman for Hamas now says said today that.
No Israeli is safe anywhere in Israel -- -- he said it Palestine -- -- that we can go after any of them.
Now that country is one word he -- is one of supporting Hamas in this and we're sending them all that's only save money.
It seems to me we should stop immediately well I want to pick up on that because one of the most.
Interesting aspects of this obviously the most interesting and important as what happens on the ground between Israel and the Palestinians.
But this is the first confrontation in the new post Arab Spring Middle East world.
And you now have not will Barak -- the US could convince.
Hands off but you've got more say the president.
Who was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood.
He -- his prime minister there and what role as Egypt -- -- play on our days -- perhaps reconsider their peace treaty with Israel.
Well I think first well you know in terms of President Obama is he's been standing with Israel and I think it did Fred is right he has he has a lot of work to do with with the with -- with Egyptian president and to work behind the scenes and try to.
To bring them around so that won't happen and today you know there has been grandstanding on the part in Egypt and aligning themselves with Hamas and so I think that the president has a lot of work to do behind the scenes.
With you know with the and Turkey and and trying to bring people around get them on the same page.
-- -- I mean I think the most obvious lesson of all of this is that the American theory and democracy in the developing world does not just wrong but completely wrong I mean.
Gaza and Egypt -- a lot more democratic than they were a decade ago in part because of actions the United States took -- as a direct result of the increased democracy in both of those places.
They're both -- anti American and they're both more dangerous to Israel.
To this ought to tell us something about the limits of self government I -- honest about it and I think we should be.
The second one I would make is we do have somewhat average thanks to these years of billion dollar checks sent to not just Egypt to Turkey a lot of countries in the region.
That are making noises in support of -- that seems to meet our role the American all this point ought to be to remind those countries they have an awful lot to lose.
If they step up their support for this nonsense for the attacks on -- -- when you say that that there are limits to the idea of democracy and -- clearly democracy you can end up with -- -- taking over -- -- more crap but what choice did we have when you got hundreds of thousands of people into -- out there let's let's flip around.
Does any wise person think -- would be a good idea to give the disenfranchised masses in say Saudi Arabia the Saudi kingdom we're -- Jordan.
The vote no and the -- telegraphed time and again it's the fact is that.
-- or foreign policy.
I can tell the people who I'm sure everybody deserves a vote on -- Clinton of them the modern democracy spreading saying it exactly can lead to this this kind of stuff but the point is.
We have no control over what happened in Egypt that was gonna happen whether or not we were involved or not -- -- and we couldn't -- I mean if we could have backed Mubarak in a way that didn't yelling that he alienate the entire world than we probably would have but.
I'm toll with -- I I do think Clinton the people need to think through the democracies.
-- democracy spreading agenda all right that's it for the panel we will.