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Okla. Gov. Mary Fallin explains why she will refuse to carry out two key elements of President Obama's health care reform law
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Obamacare may be the law the land but that is not stopping many Republican governors they are still keeping up their fight.
Oklahoma governor Mary Fallon is one of those governors and Oklahoma is just one of the states refusing to create its own health care exchange.
Governor.
Nice to see a governor.
Nice to see Greta.
So tell you why do you not want to separate state exchange instead instead deferred to the federal and the deep -- One.
Well basically -- says thanks but no thanks.
You know we philosophically have a disagreement where the Obama administration.
And the affordable health care act in fact in the state of Oklahoma and that people of Oklahoma about the -- large margin almost 65%.
And that that we oppose -- many portions of the affordable health care act and it was actually put into our constitution.
As so course we've had a decision to -- we've had a deadline in which we were to decide on what course -- actually we're going to tape.
And we felt like that if we would have set up a state based exchange that would have been a say basic change in name only.
Because I am hearing from other governors who have tried to set up -- state basic change at hand for a couple years.
That the administration is now saying that doesn't qualify what we're looking for for -- basic change.
And we don't want to do the federal partnership -- so we're just kind of all the immigrants say fear for your forcing something up on the save about Oklahoma that.
We did not support we still do not support it is a federal law also were -- the fair impairment.
And do their planning do what they're gonna do not the home.
Well eat in that and the what I don't understand from the governors is this is that if you give a state exchange and to connect me by federal rules and federal anti and -- what you have to pay for it.
Why not let the federal government paid -- -- like all the doubters just don't let the federal government -- sports instead they've set the rules and they say they can do events it's also a uniform -- I don't get what the state gets out of it by -- and stuff except the bill.
That's ride and we don't want that bill's going to be -- I would appreciate.
Secretary of health human services Kathleen Sebelius shouldn't she cannot talk this past week personally -- my phone call to the governor's.
This week also.
And earlier we talked about how important it is that governors have.
Answers to questions that we don't know all the details share on what's expected -- to say.
Especially as it relates to setting up the exchanges and and of course -- the Medicaid expansion necks out.
And her comment does -- you were working on the world she issued some girls today some general parameters but.
It's hard to make a decision that's about something that affects the state budget and -- -- can.
Well we don't know what the rules of the game -- course are -- as well.
Just glance at least exchange and we'll tell you whether we're print or not that that just doesn't work.
And -- thing I'm worried about is we know the United States is heading off a fiscal clip we know that congress has been.
Been fighting there and you're going back into lame duck session we don't know what's going to be happening.
Between now the end of the year other than that we know that we have a huge fiscal crisis on our hands you know they're going to be a lot of tax increases are going into effect.
We know that -- Americans are going to be shocked when.
January can reason and there's many different things are gonna trigger -- -- expiration of the bush tax cuts he AMT.
Whether it is increases in and that.
And affordable health care act and the penalties and they are so many things are gonna trigger to increase taxes upon.
-- individuals but upon businesses and certainly even -- state budgets.
Well what's overriding all of this is -- listen to visit threes you're going off the fiscal cliff -- -- is because a year and a half ago congress and the president the senate didn't do the work of so that pushes up against a deadline.
The reason you don't know what's going now would be is that with the state guidelines are still -- -- now what they've had a health Carroll offered two years it.
What in the world they do watch you know get their -- is -- I know you're museum member of congress but no isn't -- -- getting anything done and I frankly if you don't even know what the rules are how the world can you set up in exchange on their promises they're gonna do it right later when you know but I don't frankly they don't have a long history of doing things on time and right.
Well I'm not sure there ain't gonna have a mandate to do it in the first spies everywhere -- travel.
As a nation and when I questioned that the sector -- -- -- Sebelius about the rules as a -- You've been a governor I'm together yet -- and that you know I'm -- decisions based upon.
The current information that I have and I'm not sure how much is going to cost me.
You know we're estimates gonna cost state of Oklahoma hundreds of millions of dollars and that -- he's got -- cam from somewhere.
And -- detect the fiscal clamp and the predictions that we could go into another.
Recession if congress doesn't get its act together you know it's it's absurd it's events or Alan my statement.
-- -- -- Governor nice to CNN day and hope this gets sorted out for everybody assumed but I'm not holding my breath nice to see governor.
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