Special Report Online: 11/21/12
Shannon Bream hosts Thanksgiving special
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- Date Nov 21, 2012
Shannon Bream hosts Thanksgiving special
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Another dissident special report online and -- and bring in tonight for Brett -- let's bring our panel.
AB Stoddard editor of that -- the editor of the hill Houston powers columnist for the Daily Beast and syndicated columnist.
Charles Charlie Krauthammer and his skills.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- parents have actually seen -- -- yeah there's good data Jackson action going on here so we're good.
I'm all right -- we talked about Israel holds he's our situation we talked about begins and just all fired up about that should we pick up there I mean you don't feel like.
-- you don't seem to have a lot of love for the NL RV.
I didn't members are put about a president so they're almost always partisan it's almost always full of Democrats -- Republicans.
During a particular administration business.
There's not any -- particular people who are on -- more I think idea what the whole idea of the government telling you when you can gather.
And when you can collectively.
You know get together and negotiate and it's just it seems unconstitutional to me I don't you know I really I don't understand how the government could.
Decider and does decide whether you you know could be protesting or striking -- just doesn't.
They're not gonna say that you can't have free speech mean that they're gonna limit what you can say that it's the way in which you go about it that could lead to collective bargaining rights -- look on the other side of the coin the NLRB.
Tried to tell Bowen and -- -- -- the plan -- the right to work states Carol.
After they had some of several billion dollars into it so are you object in the NLRB I think in that case -- just in union in unions and from.
Bonnie I'm not a constitutional.
Scholar but Boeing doesn't strike me as an individual and know there are a lot of conservatives who think that Boeing is a person's -- it's you know I I think it went when I think of people gathering IC just I see it differently verses.
You know -- and I'm not saying it definitely they should've done that Edison is sort of the idea of it is one of our basic rights is freedom of association and freedom of speech and expressing our views.
And I just I am just very troubled -- ideas that the government thinks it.
In this situation they can totally understand there are so many instances.
Where the government is very careful about for example issuing a permit for him it's.
You don't believe that anybody -- just.
It happened march and that a permitting no I don't have itself was it restricting you wouldn't tolerate.
No because it's not limiting your freedom of -- just telling you that -- -- we live right that we live in and a society and we have rules the same way they can tell you if you can speed or not and so they can set up an area where you can where you can protest cannot say that they can't have some sort of control over that but just the idea that they can say you can't protestor you can't.
Striker you can't collectively bargain just seems to really an infringement on basic rights what he's saying -- -- -- is we have a lot of people milling about the senior issue it's obviously a very heated thing on both sides -- a lot of folks -- saying.
You know -- also the bids -- capability and right of workers to be able to voice your concerns about problems in the workplace.
But many of them are expressing concern that the power than -- unions all concentrated with the guys in the top.
End and well -- -- they really still healthy and -- very fair complex mankind there's a couple of different debates going on there's -- debate of whether like unions can be -- often.
And ineffective and power hungry and it.
I hear that Iranian of those things go on especially to eliminate big city like New York City -- some things you see a lot of that.
But that's a different issued then I think whether or not the National Labor Relations Board can be telling people how they can -- I kind of like they're they're different conversations and I think the complaints about unions often can be.
Valid though sometimes overstatement.
But I agree with -- and it just a different arguments and whether or not they're gonna circle -- -- and ruined Thanksgiving travel from people tonight which is highly irritating and in some cases.
Will be sad because some family members actually will want to make it a huge family gathering in LA I mean I quit trying to get out of my grammar -- -- -- that really.
Fans -- gonna risk you know any kind of backlash that would come from that they don't really care they're looking for attention and that's a different argument than.
A lot of the criticism.
About unions that you're probably getting online right now -- have to do with other issues.
Talking about you know whether or not they can.
-- -- and petition you know for four there.
Britain's it was a different situation and that whether or not you know they they have other problems internally and and and the whole.
System has changed over the years so it's really sort of -- political -- some.
It's a different question -- this situation -- Black Friday separate.
Protecting competent teachers in New York City you know I mean much that that's a that's a fair agreement I don't think I don't get off you know my brother's a teacher.
The union has been very.
Good to him and -- he is a great school in the students to have everything great but there are certain certain cities are some really legitimate problems rehab people who have jobs who are working.
Why aren't qualified and are protected by the unions and I think those are those are fair criticism.
Can you imagine how many angelenos today are grateful.
To the -- for saving them.
We had to make some real excuse to miss their -- -- weekend of utter misery I think that is a plus either we're overlooking here.
I won't get and that's I ticket to tune in there for me what it reminds us that our program so I know what you're looking for a website or someplace and find that it doesn't turn anybody cynical but but but -- Because happen -- -- -- -- Kentucky says the United States ticketing they can probably get along with fewer airplanes.
Approach and bring any out.
Common and -- or an airline there will be entirely effective may.
It has no planes right there's nowhere to go you don't pay any money you just give it forty like -- -- -- -- -- By the way you know of course there for weeks now on a serious topic there has been a lot of dispute over -- -- what happened there for Americans dead.
And what UN ambassador Susan Rice knew what she went out to the Sunday shows and and said.
We do not know we are still putting things together it looks like it came from a fall off of Cairo and other unrest which came from a video.
That was offensive to the Islamic faith.
On she has been talking up for the first time that we've heard her address it today I think that we just got this sound and if it's available -- that.
As a senior US diplomat I agreed to a White House requests.
Not to appear on the Sunday shows to talk about.
The full range of national security issues of the day which at that time -- primarily.
And particularly the protests there -- enveloping.
And threatening many diplomatic facilities American diplomatic facilities around the world and -- -- nuclear program.
The attack on -- -- and -- on our facilities and -- -- was obviously the significant piece of this.
When discussing the attacks against our facilities and -- Ghazi.
I relied solely and squarely.
On the information provided to me by the intelligence community.
I made clear that the information was preliminary.
And that our investigations.
Would give us the definitive answers.
Particularly the intelligence community has worked in good faith to provide the best assessment based on the information available.
OK I have to say and -- -- your reactions to this book but the worst it's like out to me there was she was very forceful about saying.
I relied solely and squarely on the information provided to -- by the intelligence community going on and to say you know I think everybody was acting in good faith.
But you sense that this is ratcheting up and that somebody is gonna wanna blame somebody else and a very public way although the administration as a whole since he's taking the other weeks you know it seems like.
We've had things bubbling up from the CIA wanted to release its timeline the Pentagon went to at least as I mean at some point -- in this Wednesday.
It was them not me.
This question of who describes the talking points for this really strange reason we've been given much is that we're not allowed to say out loud that we suspect al-Qaeda he did not think their leaders and they don't know -- -- out because they might instead of taking credit for things that they might you know.
From figure out which they usually do they might -- got Toronto -- then that threatens our security so.
This is is this is a new you know who pretends.
Policy would never heard of before.
So somewhere so not only do you have this question of why -- of the the talking points and then you have a question of who's got the talking points.
If this if this person comes -- -- and this is a regular routine.
You -- procedure that I guess -- -- sorry Susan Rice but there's too many.
Accounts about the early.
I'm suspicions at a early I guess evidence that terrorists.
That there is intercepts and -- -- -- involvement and responsibility for the essence of that really makes.
Whoever brief term and even Susan Rice herself.
-- really complicit in.
In this in this idea that we were misled about this video -- about protests.
Escalating and escalating to include.
You know RPG's and and heavy weaponry.
That really doesn't usually follow a spontaneous professor.
It's it seems that she mean she must be feeling real pressure she came out to make a statement on Thanksgiving eve.
About this -- something -- administration wants to rescue her nomination.
For secretary of state has really faces an uphill battle I think president moms aren't really -- -- on a virus that.
I think it's a mistake at this time given -- -- to -- -- fiscal -- to throw race on fire were in a crisis is not the time of Harriet Miers.
And just having fun you know getting.
People that you think -- loyal and true job she might actually be much more qualified than Harriet Miers was to be sitting on the Supreme Court to become secretary of state.
But the problem is what she said on -- shows that day.
Oh after what we knew people were saying that week it's just it's just imminent crash what -- he really -- even.
Frustration if the president does want to move forward with her nomination she's going to have to testify on under oath to a number of senators if we're going to ask her very pointed tough questions.
And are going to put these statements back up and for different is that something you think the president the White House will be willing to rest.
I you know everything had heard up until that moment that that.
-- -- -- -- -- You know like he was had to protect the -- little lady.
Wasn't John Kerry was going to be the the nominee is what is this is Susan Rice was not -- ever seriously in the running from anybody that I had spoken to people were very close in the White House have done when it was going on -- her name is for you just sort of -- in the mix because she is.
One of his favorite people and she's very Smart is very bright.
But even the White House seem to understand it.
That it was gonna become this Big Ben -- show if she went up there that said you know John McCain and and Lindsey Graham just -- -- because.
They should -- what they should have done is it if he was really and a denominator.
-- -- there that are under -- ask the questions instead they've gotten to this ridiculous conversation about talking points you know and it's not at the end of the day.
It's not really Susan rice's fault you know I mean that you can say that that Susan Rice and maybe she's not qualified to be secretary of state -- -- the -- questions but.
That -- days it is that's the White House is the president it's the people who.
Sold this silly story and then my final point on this is I think the bigger issue their -- keeps missing us.
It's a worldview issue so it's a -- They actually may have.
Have believed to us getting an like that in the whole -- -- -- saying.
I think that.
I think what we heard -- in the days before the days between when the attack happened when she went on the shows the over democratic members of congress who were briefed behind closed source who came out and send things.
Like this looks like a pre planned attack mom's still chill with this level of in myself -- -- -- there was a call that was made where somebody said they saw these these guys watching.
That you know that Cairo protests and -- the video you know so if someone says coming about knowing about the video and any about the protests and I just let it there's an inclination for them to sort of believe that's me that's the bigger problem the bigger problem is these are not people who -- back and say.
This is so clearly a terrorist attack in the NL and it but if -- remember.
Of congress who were so they were -- it but two or three days before rice went on the talk shows.
And -- are convinced that it was a pre planned situation and that it was a terrorist element that it was al-Qaeda.
If they're saying that two or three days before she went on to the Sunday shows then why get -- married to the story of the video.
For -- I'm just saying if there was if there is complete -- information why choose one path and stick to it for the five Sunday shows.
I don't Petraeus however warned that Friday's event and that it was the video.
I mean he's changed is still exchange the story out.
-- -- is -- interesting is when you watched rice.
Delivers a message she was reading this today this -- very very careful.
There was nothing spontaneous it was in the civil Bolivia that wasn't prepared -- that's like a brief from a lawyer.
And she said you know I want to -- really acted in good faith I'm not sure that's true.
Look what would would she was.
She was reading something -- two days earlier.
The FBI had told.
They had spoken with the people who weren't they have to see Americans who have been evacuated.
Who came out of it alive who saw -- who said there was no demonstration.
So when she says even today she says the best evidence that was not the best.
That was an even left halfway best efforts the overwhelming evidence was that it wasn't terror attack and that there was no demonstration.
Now -- today say well she had to do because she asked him to protect the information that was secret it's a secret information is contradicting.
The stuff that's and don't tell you -- I think -- know that you're telling a lie.
Don't say anything simply say we don't know we'll let you know in three days five days we find out.
So I I tend to believe that it is Susan narrative that they -- I think was a deliberate spending.
I'm not sure it was because they're inclined to believe it's all about you know America.
Blame America first it was -- -- in America who.
Who produced a video offended the Muslims and that's -- all this happen.
I'm not sure it's it's it's a philosophical issue that is a political issue they had an election this is a contradiction of everything Amy had said -- -- Qaeda.
And they couldn't tolerate pets and they also thought one other thing.
Remember the three to five days between September 11 and Susan rise.
All the coverage was and Mitt Romney.
And the statement he issued about Cairo.
It was all an attack on Romney and it was up they totally ignored the real story so they had really good reason to believe tactically.
The White House now.
The media would use this against rob -- they -- interest in looking into this and they would get away with -- and they didn't.
Our folks as they rightly are on my folks wanna be more involved in what's going on -- -- forgive me I'm not as smooth as -- and working -- Courted by the way said Charles cannot get a word in edgewise with all the -- I just my Bill Clinton and Charles H Moore Charles got more -- -- I'm not trying to be gentlemanly.
You are very gentlemanly -- so we are getting a lot of reaction from folks do there's plenty skepticism from the bank -- -- that there are people.
A lot of folks laying into saying it's so confusing -- election's over people don't get it why would the White House -- what differences and make.
Do you think on some people holding got the concept -- loss.
And he just don't get why they should care.
Other than -- we have four Americans -- statements don't think there's any blame for that to be late with the administration or is there seems confusing for something.
I think before we learned.
That Petraeus changed his story and that there was.
You know a big.
And they had a big secret and he was under investigation and on and on.
It might have confuse people act again.
Charles another blames the media -- presently in the media for not.
Paid that close enough attention I would argue that the story in October was Mitt Romney surge after the October 3 debate I would argue that -- that Romney talked -- nausea every day -- Obama would have has had an answer more questions.
That was not the case.
-- -- congressional Republicans and some other people but it was not Mitt Romney was not me campaign stories was imperative is September this is not a October.
In September and it was one after it occurred there was no coverage of this moment I don't.
Covered the -- that Mitt Romney got slapped around for coming out too early in the same statement that the Republican Party Clinton criticize him for making money and forget what they didn't panic but but it isn't it.
It's a time people I think saw it and said well of course this is a hot -- of unrest -- an unstable place and there were some.
Terrible attack point loss in people and they match is not know yet what happened.
I think now we know a lot more.
And it shouldn't be that confusing.
We still needs now what happened to the talking points but.
Some people -- a significant people have changed their stories and -- -- many people.
Who I am more convinced immediately that it was terrorism and that and that warned more of those people have been talking about that include.
And more Democrats and that's kind of media that -- how long day in and day out about Scooter Libby.
Leaks -- any I think -- so sure absolutely sure you know and and this was like that and international crisis now and and and they can do that day in day out can be completely wrong about it never apologize for.
But they can't get interest in the story like this doesn't make any sense like there's.
If I have to believe that if this happened under George Bush that would just be a little bit more carry ons you must be reading minds because the poster did -- that it just said that about -- wanted to know what you thought.
You know -- this was church of -- bush and this happened on his watch would this have been 24/7 especially if he was in the middle of reelection yes.
I personally just having more smarter now being told that if it's good there was some there -- some lying in -- Cover ups and got things going on here in our White House and now we're being told that like it doesn't really matter -- election's over.
Like recollection -- -- and we have a dense gas that they're yeah they're actually you're accountable for another still accountable that cancer.
We still don't know where the president was for fifteen hours a beautiful little -- -- things like.
-- what people need to be more curious about there's so many different versions of it too because it's their concern about we knew there were attacks ahead of time who knew why wasn't a security beefed up because they were there were -- class I mean there -- -- emergency needing help these people didn't have what they needed then what happened that day about not sending military that we have people in position to -- not and then the story that's being told afterwards there -- three different.
Scandals potentially going on here.
Look if in this way the Bush Administration.
Bernstein would come at a retirement in order to.
To cover there is no inches and it's because it was a President Obama a Democrat.
And it was -- approaching election they had no interest but you're right about that confusion.
Because there -- three separate scandals and why I was there -- perhaps as a protection.
-- all of the -- please help us including a poignant one from the ambassador himself on the day he died.
Second about this story about in -- seven hours -- -- out.
Where was the president there is no curiosity at all of the media as to where the president was what he ordered.
Who we ordered how many orders where were handled or or ignored in the 7000 under which Americans are under siege.
And some are dying and the third scandal is of course of the conflicting stories and the cover up.
The fourth I think -- the media ignoring all of us and that's way it gets it's difficult to end up.
It's an interesting from the public is there's so much but I do you think one thing happen after the weekend.
We did get clarity there's one issue that has to be explained.
Dianne Feinstein a Democrat.
Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee said we have to find out.
Who change the talking points and that is lying to the American people was at the White House was it someone in the intelligence community.
Carter says he did it but he says he changed one word right.
I was kind of White House says it changed 10 -- -- -- but that's not the point the story was changed since then be -- their whole origin of the attack was changed.
It's not -- -- and and that I think that will focus attention there's one other element.
Could make the story live.
Because if he thinks that he has to.
Susan Rice because they don't just that he will not be pushed around.
Then the fact that she will be.
If you will be nominated they'll be said it.
Hearings will make the story -- a big story and ironically he'll be the one who will have revived it.
All right I -- and can't hear captain young says Houston at thinking liberal I'm laughing.
Also there are many many people as it whenever I've done this you want Charles run for president next time.
You did quite well and our -- -- -- -- you know the response I know.
If nominated I will not run but -- -- also.
Just a lazy and don't want and the rubber chicken circuit that's the only -- OK but I do want the airplane that big big enterprise.
He uses that the company LAX although I would assume that a president can get around thanks on -- pat from Virginia wants to know once you know -- -- -- your time Charles anti also got a couple questions -- be is that real -- Please call answer for -- -- -- -- if I was sent down now we're putting in my guys said you couldn't even -- Stamkos polyester.
It is financing in these turkeys you preventable.
Well that wasn't the yeah.
The first -- not when I'm it is yeah we're pretty -- generation -- never goes on about that.
And -- -- either animal that you can't where can you explain and I didn't want to know about that come.
OK so we had a couple holes here and one of the ones we were talking about Thanksgiving.
We depend I think on where you come from where you -- up what is that's substance with the Turkey is the poll question we've been asking is it dressing.
-- it stuffing or is it selling which when I married my husband and Pennsylvania his family -- -- filling itself.
What about you guys and then I'll play the results of our our our folks -- in Thailand and -- so what is it consistency of the stuff.
Army that way inside it's great Maurice -- and then almost like you said like it gets up my dad.
What she consistency and then as it comes outside and there's extra it's more crispy and -- I think -- ended up on a cooking show.
That can't can't -- -- -- other people's greetings and so if there's a show that eating I can do that you're sent an Alaska we call it stuff.
OK if it is it driving -- it is that it gives options so I didn't have my grandmother called it dressing room and -- -- from Pennsylvania.
So I don't know -- there's only 1% sorry -- -- only one present for -- okay Charles.
-- sounds like -- did you get into if you treat your car.
You know he -- like that 1% and I -- it is -- that's the end of the story.
-- -- in our folks online agrees stuffing 66%.
When they calling me to 34% -- dressing only one person and I yeah.
If this is stressing -- -- so if someone can write about.
And it's not just sit there not being where I -- I don't know fool here in Georgia tonight and I -- -- say curse word but Blake yankees.
You can guess with a blanket is very popular musical.
-- dressing sectarian Georgia's from the south and she says he's frustrated have forgotten.
Now listen we're gonna eat it no matter what you want to -- -- we're going to be eating at.
I'm -- -- did this and this name wrong but Ken Duke who says we're having average stuff I don't know about -- Texas they say -- says it's cornbread dressing.
It is sad thing that dressing okay they want to know what your favorite desserts.
-- Maginnis is eating -- -- a cooking show twinkies.
-- not a union squeaky is for her -- well I don't select our but Thanksgiving there tech com high and pump him I -- I don't think -- one that's not really.
There aren't scissors in general I -- like desserts but those angry feeling but -- Yeah yeah yeah they -- know.
But yeah but but I I -- and those are kind of visitors you're supposed to serve a Thanksgiving night.
That's really I'm not really fond of either of them that we have it's discovered upon and I screamed -- and -- online and you'll only ever I've never.
Anyone who didn't follow moments at the pump and has -- that we -- that we do not me.
Okay wait I can't -- plan on TV and -- in Atlanta says it is stopping when you put in the bird wait a minute.
And finally a lot faster racking when ended bait and accounts of sell you down and we're not gonna have a demonstrated yeah.
There -- says the squeaky spotted LAX.
And I -- roping and all those stories there.
You know still what are you -- thankful for this year.
I say -- every year being an American.
It's America you only 6% of the world is American.
You won the lottery if you're born here and you -- the historical -- in being born in this.
Era and in this country I grew up in Canada those -- point -- -- always been American.
And I'm glad I came back there's no country like it and you know -- people who get on rafts.
And risk their lives so they can come ashore here and I I.
I popped up here in a hospital that is the ultimate look.
I mean endorsement.
From -- he sent.
I'm proud I mean I'm thankful for that refer also being an Alaskan coast its best state.
And I'm from from and the mind you causes my nieces and hand Connolly five liter engine.
Christmas Christmas and it's very -- I -- to.
I'm thankful for her for being in this is the ultimate American holiday to me it's more Americans mean then the fourth of July and I think it really.
It's more in -- meaningful 'cause it's it's.
Senator around thanks.
And it's only celebrated here because it was a tradition started here a long time ago.
And so I think if we celebrate our community more on this -- -- our founding.
Principles and our history -- -- in the summer with parades I think it just the traditions of Thanksgiving -- more meaningful.
And it's under holiday and I always think -- famous Charles that you know work what we're so blessed to be American.
Unique and fortunately -- created through whether.
He created things dealing with a proclamation I think I have that I -- look I think Google again perhaps I should live long -- I don't want to read Charles before the show.
Don't know exactly what I'm not saying that they are -- That -- -- -- -- and a lot of people saying that they are thankful for.
For Fox News for the panelists for such reports are dying.
Hey listen this is less -- -- -- us in the heart but it's Joseph.
Says be thankful for the nationals.
Listen we're still hurting a little -- just -- home planet we are thankful for that come.
I -- people like you guys are as well for our military and for their families because I think these are along with them their loved ones.
My brother is active duty navy and I know a lot of our viewers out there are military men and women -- to have loved ones serving as well so.
We couldn't have this great country without them so much to be thankful for every also wants to know where your pumpkin ice treatments to -- -- I -- does that.
I -- why not it's it's -- -- -- -- -- and get right.
-- -- do you have and I also -- which is not patriots from down -- they have as well right ladies signing off I think.
That was -- voters I think.