Halftime Report: 11/22/12
Tom Shillue puts the 'guest' in Red Eye guest ombudsman
- Duration 10:27
- Date Nov 22, 2012
Tom Shillue puts the 'guest' in Red Eye guest ombudsman
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We were back -- -- out -- -- -- anything wrong so far -- that we go to Tom -- thank sandy you've been wrong I don't know maybe it's a matter of perspective.
No I I think we are right with his pocket he bullets start here we have lots of good story story won the -- story let's say -- is.
Liz you asked why do we have to be pardoning turkeys.
I guess that's the question myself and you said.
That you thought George Bush was the first person to.
Pardon a Turkey and I thought she's got to be wrong about her -- -- -- -- of -- yet you are actually right I assumed this.
Turkey pardoning tradition.
You know -- and yes but it did not -- is a lot of people credit.
Truman for starting this Turkey tradition but actually it's officially called the national Thanksgiving Turkey presentation.
And Truman did not pardon a Turkey.
He did he.
Eight the Turkey could.
And it looks like Eisenhower eight both turkeys as they both these administrator of -- -- Yes they pretty well they presented him win they'll -- I felt pretty -- -- -- Turkey big because I guess Eisenhower these guys -- that's we're supposed to do they present threat via Turkey because this originally and I think still they involve the -- poultry and egg board in in this it's all the commotion.
Four you know having enjoying Thanksgiving in the morning and the question is what do you think Sarah Pailin would have done with that Turkey.
Oh -- she maybe she would have nailed it and it -- -- from the -- -- she's here.
If you're at the end of -- -- I need to have.
Yeah this is that's.
We have this -- this -- -- Thought for a -- we talk about -- you know a gun culture people we talk about nailing things from a chic she shot things from the end and right.
Yes yes I think she probably would've lost the debate to it.
-- -- -- -- but what Tom Tom you're right and I actually.
I would have thought that this was.
-- old custom like something stupid that -- like Electoral College that was set up like 200 years ago.
No it actually happen -- and I've just in the research a ton here.
It looks like it happened by accident.
The first -- reference to pardoning a Turkey seem to come from an offhand joke by Ronald Reagan because reporters were badgering him all about whether he's going to pardon Oliver North.
And in an -- ways that I think I -- pardoned the Turkey because it was around the holidays.
And then the actual pardoning came in when George H.
Bush made it a part of the ceremony.
-- -- questioned Liz you ask why do we pardoned turkeys perhaps because when George H.
Pardon a Turkey way back in the eighties it was a more innocent time and a cup up we actually -- in pardoning a Turkey was a joke but people today actually take it seriously.
Oh yes it's a very serious event and I'm sure -- tuned into the President Obama today pardon a Turkey did you.
You know I didn't -- but I know what happens with the -- -- -- -- -- I think you're mixing up to the of the Truman story according to Oliver stone's new book.
What's that -- offense that he actually knew the Turkey was going to surrender but he showed -- blog.
-- -- -- was a guy who thought he was on TV the whole time.
Yes you have to ask if he tried to -- is voting Iran yeah at all never -- actually -- the need somebody bombed the Japanese.
Well that was a really.
That was a Franklin okay -- -- FaceBook what happened here.
Jim you know it's interesting he said when people post on your wall if they're not friends do you say I wasn't talking to you.
That is it from now on that's going to be the excuse that people use I wasn't talking to you.
Yeah I I I is either on Twitter I don't do a whole lot of FaceBook action.
But just irritates me because people -- put it it's almost leave you having a private discussion.
If you look at the public floor I'm not -- yeah I guess I should give us.
I want you I didn't get into the finals I'll tell me that if I didn't want to follow I -- they go on followed yet they're -- come and go ahead come on Bob why didn't.
I actually have a I actually actually do that it does hurt me when landfall.
I see it over that I couldn't be happier in the lines -- follow me I'll never know you existed that's what I think see this is the formula because what happens is when you had you remember when Kramer what's that fellow's name media.
Michael Richards group when Michael Richards he he said it you know impolite things in the comedy -- of and he got in trouble for it.
And he's forced to apologize and problems and these people his answer should've been I wasn't talking.
Yet you know Katie court puts it on the evening news.
She if the words -- racial insensitivity.
On its face.
She shouldn't people who put this on the evening news be apologizing they're the ones who is spreading it around the country not Michael -- Well -- as someone who works at a news station I would like to say no that should not be the case at all -- -- the group.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Well you know -- there -- so this FaceBook story really had to do with these gals who were.
You know at -- war memorial.
All right and Andy I think you're I don't know if you.
You quoted the company these girls work for think.
-- I -- -- on the -- that's not politically correct and but and I think.
Yeah well indicating -- -- -- GAAP term is games you have to be the -- to a working for a place called living in that independently forever super politically correct company.
I mean they have all the PC cred this is a company that actually helps people living with disabilities -- So I think it's interesting.
Women are in trouble because they are essentially I mean I'm just assuming that they they they work for this organization they probably live a very kind of politically correct life.
But they are in trouble with the military for being insensitive do you think Andy I'll ask you this question.
How do you think if the roles were reversed if these people perhaps if they were they worked for the military and they were caught doing something.
Un PC they probably -- Bob brought the hammer down Deutsche -- I did don't understand that.
Alcohol problems like an enigma.
Felt like Apache describing the -- KSS.
Let's look at and then let's go to bill builds today do you do to separate these things and these these two gals are gonna get fired for this it looks like they're not.
The organization seems to be standing by -- they claim that they're gonna have an internal investigation but.
They they are not gonna fire these.
Women four for this.
-- internal investigation is code for we're gonna wait and see if everyone settles down if they don't.
Our -- -- and we we talk about something else like it can't.
Sort of happens -- hostess next week we talk about that instead of this things die down but keep their jobs and a lesson that I think -- find these schools these women work they work.
With people with disabilities.
I think I would like to hear that whole theory and actually -- that.
Why is that next door -- this next -- was while the -- MI -- story three was the the nudity writes yes.
I -- quickly printed out is much information they cut about about.
Indecent exposure in and nudity Tommy -- pictures you prevent.
I -- -- unit that is.
Think Pete Townsend I was doing be in the -- investigating whether -- -- welcome your FaceBook wall.
-- -- I have all the statues here the laws on nudity they go state by state but it looks to me like California has the the laws in place that make this illegal I don't know why they had to keep the city had to come down on on these.
They had to make their own law it's already it says in California.
Exposing the private parts and any public space where there are other people present who could be offended and annoyed -- a lot.
It's not true I I live in California and this is the first time I've worn clothes and six months if.
Well look all of -- chasing because if you look down it the the statutes most states.
Unlike in California in New York.
They're conditional -- -- Connecticut.
It it -- -- exposure with intent to -- are satisfied that sex sexual desire of the person.
See you have to have there's intent there -- Delaware exposure regenerated general or buttocks.
When -- likely to cause alarm.
But -- and now let's look at New York's -- New York.
New York's -- says the it is illegal appearance in a public place with private or intimate parts -- they're exposed can I simply exposure in new York and America I think you're doing with lewd content.
In new York and California it's actually illegal just to be -- where they're actually the laws are much more -- another state.
What -- would showing your genitals cause alarm I mean you know obviously with -- a certain size issues sure but -- -- -- -- -- -- would that be -- frightening -- people it's.
Well what is he -- -- -- -- if you if you causal warming your wife I haven't if you you have haven't you -- for a happy song wanna do it for the -- -- It was -- -- a lot of you screamed don't be alarmist but look for America.
I don't out of out of our children that residents who -- that what -- their children.
And also -- I don't think the most Americans they don't hang out in comedy clubs these said tens of inequity that did you and I hang out and yeah.
That's true and I've got certain places where enough.
Except okay story before I guess we'll finish this up here is the last one I was really listening to story but.
You guys really he came down Bloomberg Liz you problem.
You said that outlawing big gulps is a distraction not you really think.
In that passing these laws it distracts him from other.
From the other -- duties of his office.
Absolutely he spends hours and hours on that and also -- saying to women don't recipe used baby formula and said I think all that time spent.
He could've prevented parts of New York City.
And the area and the region looking like Bennett says it does right now from hurricane -- he's athletic.
The focus should think he could have literally -- the the floodwaters from coming in I'm saying he -- -- basically protected the terminals where gasoline is based is delivered -- gotten a private companies who run those terminals to you know.
Do a better job and -- don't -- -- -- -- power authority mean come on.
Yeah I know you've convinced me when she -- -- and there's a good idea aside this is -- is -- -- side of this -- what better way to beautify the streets of New York after this crisis.
And lots of public rusty.
Wonderful back to you any I'm done -- -- thanks Tom.