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Holiday shopping, Walmart and the fight over unions

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And time again our associates conclude that.

No they don't need a union that they've got a good deal working at Wal-Mart they appreciate the opportunities.

That we have a Wal-Mart and we appreciate our associates mean we can't.

Have a Black Friday that without our associates.

Pay is an issue and a.

Heard some of us a lot of us.

Tired of living in poverty.

And a lot of us on food stamps -- can't live off that I don't know if I should go with.

My morals or just go with -- my need to have an income at the moment.

-- -- -- At Wal-Mart as they now on what is one of their busiest days of the year on Black Friday are facing -- walk out from current employees let's talk about -- with our panel.

Friends Peterson and Charles also here nobody escapes in fact to their head Turkey.

It's -- make about as we had expected -- -- we would have a decision from the National Labor Relations Board at this point Wal-Mart.

You know I essentially found emergency petition saying we don't want this mass protest tomorrow it doesn't meet with federal -- and we'd like it to -- I'm shocked period -- you democratic heavy.

ML RB has not the issue -- ruling.

And issued a ruling on Thanksgiving that would that might have gone against the picketers.

And they are there studiously.

Collecting depositions and more information.

So they can then issue a ruling on Monday.

Which for whatever it is will be completely moot because the picketing will go on.

Today and tomorrow but I would like to.

Reissue the safety warning I -- yes to yes today I'm -- Wal-Mart think it is the only place more dangerous.

And to stand between an early morning shoppers a Black Friday.

-- this -- stand between Chuck Schumer and a camera and -- -- known to be a very dangerous.

Half so that's really -- and yes she is that what you have to understand about this is that.

The very serious issue is that the picketers are required if they're gonna pick it continuously.

They are required overtime to at least begin to file.

For unionization and I think it's the absence of that which makes these potentially.

Illegal.

Thank -- -- we we talked about this yesterday that of course some most folks -- agreed First Amendment gives people right to speak up especially they feel like they're on the under adverse conditions.

But there's a protocol.

That the NLRB has laid out for that and how the rules have to follow I know you're not a -- -- -- On the -- yeah I and I feel that that's exactly how I felt exactly at this time last night.

I I yeah.

Actually -- I didn't really find it.

-- -- That people are not just outright it's outrageous idea of the government we're talking about a protest -- I'm not a strike -- you gotta protest.

-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Beyond that that's the -- bell and -- I'm staying legitimate investigation has to go on is this a strike or is it picketing because if it is something that's -- organization after thirty days -- they you have to proceed with formal election procedures Celine did and by the way out and I think they have any right to tell people whether they can strike or not but but that's not we're talking -- now we're talking about.

It's a very narrow thing -- testing and that anybody thinks that this is okay that we that we what are we waiting for them did you know -- whatsoever I just.

It's it's a constitutional right it's it's -- freedoms of speech is freedom of assembly.

This is that they you know of all the areas you don't want that government.

You know moving in on this is that -- -- is aimed at unionization makes it's different than approach.

Stimulus simply with -- -- and our.

NLRB case doesn't matter at all there's a bigger picture here.

And the Wal-Mart is crushing the unions and try to unionize its employees there weren't there more informed more than 4500.

Wal-Mart stores and warehouses and you know how many of whom I -- have been successful unionized.

Zero.

Three in Canada and two of those -- decertified the unions and -- and even this protest you know they have a petition about out and in the -- what needs to pay more and have more regular hours and -- -- There one point four million Wal-Mart employees you know how many have signed the petition.

Fewer than 15100.

I mean this is -- -- any protests that.

That doesn't -- the press shouldn't even be paying much attention to the only thing that attracts the attention is that there may be.

You know fights or something outside of scores of people to try to get yeah.

Tomorrow it's probably the flags are probably get a few -- -- but that's the truth is union workers at wal mart's.

Just do not want to be unionize.

Right we'll hear I want play this is -- Patterson from the Competitive Enterprise Institute.

And I will listen the first response and this is gonna go to cares and go if you let her off the.

What you're labor is worth.

We'll just what you receive and if employer -- they're worth more you'll get more and a lot for a lot of people who are complaining about their working conditions.

The other perfectly -- -- -- to find another job or start a company have their own and that's how the free market works and should work.

I teed it up for you here's and so first shot -- else -- really it's late.

And let them eat cake.

Who cares about these people give a woman on -- saying hi I work I have a job and I'm on food stamps we should be concerned about that.

Look at Wal-Mart doesn't care about that I don't think it speaks very well of them.

And I don't think this idea that people should just go off of another -- I mean.

Perhaps there is on its people don't want to unionize it's precisely because they can't.

They can't lose one of their many jobs probably any of these two more are people who work very hard.

And I don't and I think that they have a right to ask for better pay and health care and regular hours and by the -- a lot of complaints about Wal-Mart that -- the legal beyond even that's just the working conditions in the warehouses and things like that so.

I just.

And that that attitude to me is just so dismissive -- really legitimate I think grievances that workers -- are now we want to let him leave on a positive now.

Because it's Thanksgiving and we already have very short time so Charles rethink before this -- to.

To be -- native of this country if you you won the lottery.

One is seventeen -- as an American and if you if you born here you're lucky.

My father -- -- born in Austria my mother in Antwerp and my brother.

In Rio I'm the only do -- when you have a lot to be a native of the United States and when you are.

You automatically are part of the most generous.

Country on earth the one that's who liberated the most people ever.

And that's I was close to Amanda I mean that's -- secular equivalent of grace.

But after tiger's Batman and I would even out as a woman I think women in the United States are the most blast of in any country and that they mean to be thankful every day for.

The freedom and opportunity that we have compared to -- so many -- -- -- welcome and thank you for the women in my life but you know right now when I'm most thankful for Robert Griffin the third.

The Redskins quarterback and the most exciting player in the National Football League.

In my lifetime I will see if you still feel that way and a couple hours we'll check back right that's -- and --