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And welcome to fox is on that panel plus what Bill Kristol -- and power is Liz Cheney and Juan Williams we're gonna continue.
Our conversation from the first panel about foreign policy and about some of the president's appointments and about Ben Ghazi and and that took questions I really have here bill which is one.
If it does turn out that the Director of National Intelligence is -- -- office.
Scrubbed that the talking points and they were the ones who -- of them.
And I understand it certainly are some other issues about why wasn't there a bigger response why.
To both rats and why didn't they have more.
-- but but is the -- does the Ben -- investigation at some point begin to lose steam.
Ands that's one question and then the second question actually and a somewhat related.
But but somewhat different issue is -- got a lot of decisions he's got to make on on defense secretary of secretary of state now and CIA director.
And considerably if -- -- some of the people who are now in positions to those he's got to tell them.
What does that gonna tell us about the foreign.
Policy for him in the second care.
And on the first I don't know I think there trying to set an upset with the Director of National Intelligence clapper takes some takes a hit on this maybe he doesn't once they for a second term work.
Going to be confirmed anything else and they'll try to let it dwindle away in that respect.
I do think they're on their broader issues raised by what happened in in the Gaza that I think will continue to be investigated.
And I do think -- can't underestimate what John McCain's idea of the degree to which stuff is coming to a head especially in the Middle -- -- with Syria.
With Libya itself and actually now with -- Egypt and then I think the president will announce the next couple of weeks a drawdown in Afghanistan for next year which I think.
It is go to make the situation there pretty very very difficult may be unsustainable I think a lot of Republicans will say hey if we're gonna lose a slow motion anyway what we've been sending.
34000 if that's -- draws it down -- from 68000.
34000 troops over next year you can -- Afghanistan debate on the floor of the senate and the house in January February.
He's got a heck of a lot of foreign policy challenges and he is losing the first his first team.
He's losing Secretary Clinton gates is gone and apparently wants to go.
So I don't you know I think he'll.
If I were he I would look to make high prestige appointments that would help them in the second term I think the -- his second term presidents -- toward people.
But with you a long time and that's why I think you might appoints -- rights.
But that and we would you consider John Kerry a prestige appointment.
Yeah well I think in the sense at least he's got some independent standing but remember what was impressive about Hillary Clinton is she running against.
-- about what was impressive about Bob gates is that -- did George Bush's secretary of defense what was impressive about David Petraeus at CIA is that he's -- general who had no particular loyalty.
To Obama -- -- that's putting Obama loyalists and I think carried half qualifies as that.
I think there's less standing among people in the administration argue against the White House I do think it centralized power even more.
With President Obama does -- security advisor Tom Donnelly.
And I'm not so sure that's a good thing -- and Ben Ghazi and also on the other hand they appointments of what assess.
While and -- it does seem of the -- thing is losing steam and lasts.
He nominates rice in which case I think it will bring -- back center stage or if somehow they.
Do a select committee which it doesn't seem like there's there's a lot of support for.
And I find it disturbing and you know.
I love you want to let you know when you say things like -- needs to go away I think that it's what's so frustrating about this is the lack of skepticism.
First of all the people have.
When there's been so many things that have been said that don't add up.
The one I was just thinking about this morning as the president you know.
Now after the fact they claim that you know a lot of presence and it was an act of terror was kind of vague but then he said -- he was saying it was a terrorist.
Attack and then he went before the UN -- never mentioned it I mean that's just doesn't make any sense you know they're just things that don't make sense and I think that week.
We need to be skeptical we need to ask questions and we need to have answers from our leaders regardless of the party and they have not provided those answers.
And I can give you a list of many other questions so.
I think it's gonna be sad if that's what happens but.
You know I I think that -- -- they can get somebody else interest -- and that's it's probably gonna.
I don't think it's gonna go way I mean we -- -- obviously our ambassador was killed.
Three other Americans were killed consulate was overrun.
I think right now this focus on who edited the talking points in a way is.
A distraction because it wasn't as though the talking points where you know edited to say.
Well as a sixteen -- it was an al-Qaeda we know that happened.
But Susan Rice President Obama Secretary Clinton they went out and said this was because of a video.
Which is very different from saying this was because al-Qaeda affiliated terrorist groups attacked our consulate killed our ambassador those -- two drastically different things so.
You know who had the pen in terms of -- they say extremists are al-Qaeda is not the big issue here the big issue here is why it would the American people misled about this.
And I and I think that you know you will see in a minute.
At a certain point.
-- One of the questions I have is if it was a couple of and and you know I certainly can understand the political reasons not saying that I condone it but the political reasons to do what -- -- it goes against the narrative.
That they have put al-Qaeda on its heels but on the other hand two days after Susan Rice you have Matt Olson -- -- has been the head of counterterrorism and he's saying it was a terrorist attack.
It was a cover it was a pretty lousy cover -- Well you know it may have been allowed to cover up but it went on and on an -- -- -- states.
Stood over the coffins of the American ambassador is -- Americans and say -- because of hateful video.
Mean it is really baffling in this is why I think it won't go away and like -- -- -- something is wrong here beyond just the failed policies of this administration.
When you you have the State Department following it moment by moment saying we never thought it was because of the video when the CIA in real time so there was no mob.
-- why in the world the White House was out peddling this other story.
You know I think that obviously as you say Chris politics -- a reason here.
But I don't see this going away any time soon simply because there are so many questions and because we have Americans with him I think what senator McCain's I was writing as well that if there is just a bigger issue of cleaning al-Qaeda is just decimated and on the -- -- -- that if things.
I think the president White House seem to come out and really tells what's the strategy of dealing with.
The rise of terrorism you know what what what's going on -- on there in that region it wasn't let's remember it wasn't just Libya there -- a lot.
-- the Cairo embassy was under attack we had you know attacks all throughout the Middle East I -- at all seems to be sort of forgotten.
Well we know al-Qaeda is in fact -- across North Africa and in the golf.
They're not decimated you know we haven't got them back on their heels there ascendant and so we've got an administration haven't -- not have a policy frankly to deal with that to continue to wage in the war.
I just you know I come from another planet.
As always but -- just simply very.
That the people who attacked us on 9/11 al-Qaeda leadership has been decimated you know what bin Laden is dead when you break the news for -- And let me just tell you their second in command their communications system.
Decimate what you have here our affiliates who are not always in direct contact in terms of communication command and control with what was al-Qaeda.
These are people who are angry the United States angry at Israel.
They are terrorists.
And you have a situation where the video did start.
So many of those protests throughout the Middle East specifically in Egypt as you all -- call I don't think this is in dispute.
And you have people who could have used that -- cover in -- godly.
To launch their own attack and it may be a consolidation of people who were local groups in that area not al-Qaeda.
But al-Qaeda hidden in the hills of Afghanistan.
Or in our pockets not who -- after the United States.
I think a lot of this is in the weeks.
But here's where I agree with Kirsten Powers there should be direct answers this is government government should be transparent there's an investigation taking place.
He's earlier troubled by the fact that is that clapper apparently I'm like I -- sport it's already it's guys go back and -- -- I would like a straight answer but you know what.
He took to build this into like this is the be all -- all this is Watergate.
-- -- this is ridiculous.
Well the tape has run the F out there who are we look at nick and I know we -- continue this for ten more minutes.
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