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Let's talk about men in Washington so far this week is a guy you may or may not -- -- before Grover Norquist is his name in twenty years ago.
He started an anti.
Pledge campaign among all Republicans in Washington.
Well right now he's the target for a lot of folks including Harry Reid on the floor the senate only moments ago listen -- And unfortunately there's one obstacle standing when congress.
For years Norquist -- bully lawmakers willing to put their oath of office or the promise to serve constituents head of their pledge.
To this anti tax anti tax they'll.
His brand of ideological extremism has been bad for congress and even worse for the country.
-- pleased to see Republicans in congress distance himself Norquist this week.
-- appreciate that very much.
All right now here now Grover Norquist to react president of Americans for Tax Reform and sir good morning to you -- Harry Reid what do you think about that.
Well only senator Harry Reid of Nevada could pack that many lives and it's something quite that short.
Look the taxpayer protection pledge as Harry Reid well knowledge is a commitment by senators and congressmen.
-- our constituents.
Not to me personally read tells not lie over and over again a commitment to their constituents that when they come to Washington.
There will reform government and spend less money rather than raise taxes.
When Harry Reid says that the commitment of those Republican senators not to raise taxes is an impediment he means it's an impediment to raising.
Taxes Obama and Reid can keep spending money Reid -- -- supportive of every one of Obama.
Barack Obama's wasteful spending programs she wants to raise taxes to pay for as you heard from Ben Holland earlier they're not understood and cutting any spending at all.
They want -- count as their contribution to budget restraint the Democrats.
Not budget cuts of -- even passed into law.
And according the president's budget 800 billion dollar she claims.
That he saved by not occupying Iraq for the next decade.
Well Iraq kicked him out awhile ago -- -- all of the president's tax cuts are make believe.
And what they're trying to have a conversation about raising taxes one point six trillion on the American people.
This economy is very weak very fragile Obama's recovery.
Technically and going on for four years now and you wanted to -- and we won the White House will get its -- -- so how much of that but.
Republicans do -- they've they've been crack in the store a little bit Peter King said over the weekend for instance.
The -- in congress in 1941 he said with reference to the pledge that you made some 1820 years ago I would have signed a declaration of war against Japan.
It continues I'm not going to attack Japan today the world has change in the economic situation.
Is different after you can always make it clear on this too with the talk about is raising revenues and not tax rates.
But just on the just on the surface why do you believe that the doors starting to crack -- -- -- -- what why -- Republicans talking.
This way -- -- two things that people who are saying that they might vote for a tax increase as bush got octave.
In two and 1998.
In return for make believe spending cuts -- the same people who said this two years ago this is a complete media created.
Friends it's the saint Peter King said this two years ago Lindsey Graham said this two years ago.
At Chambliss sits Georgia said this two years ago they they -- all these things all during the negotiations which they tried to undermine.
Where Boehner and Mitch McConnell got two and a half trillion in spending cuts without a dollar tax increase.
And those people who are out there trying to offer tax increases.
Undermining the rest of the Republican Party.
Undermining taxpayers and not keeping their word to the constituents who allowed -- I think it's a lot of people who are made a lot of people on the right are not gonna argue with you when they see sixteen trillion dollars in debt.
And it just blows their minds and -- they -- all the money that goes to Washington.
It's not coming back home it only be -- and take this into the deeper hole however you have a new reality now.
We just had an election and you hit the Wall Street Journal has an editorial today it argues.
Let's speaker Boehner.
Debates this this tax reform idea.
As long as he can't to mitigate the damage that would come from Democrats in the first place why not allow that.
We're all in favor of tax reform -- Boehner has -- which would reduce rates and give us economic growth.
If you grow at 4% a year instead of 2% a year you race five trillion additional.
In -- and -- that would pay down Obama's debt.
By economic growth.
Eliminating deductions and credits to give the government more money to spend not only waste more money.
Raises taxes it cuts tax reform -- the future this is something in the Wall Street Journal notes and Steve Moore wrote about just last Saturday.
We ought to be going for lower marginal tax rates to have economic growth.
And of course Obama wants Republicans.
Some Republicans to start a discussion about.
How they'd raise taxes while nobody's asked him or van Holland on your show.
What spending cuts you're talking about their lives in Manchester -- a fairly -- And Dick Durbin a democratic senator from Illinois gonna say.
You need to separate the fiscal -- discussions -- many talk about reform Medicare Medicaid.
The bottom line in all of this is that you're not gonna get a vote that passes in the house.
Unless Democrats concede.
On the entitlement programs.
And that there is the stalemate.
In the fifteen seconds I have left right or wrong.
Well the challenge -- two years ago we extended all the bush tax cuts without change because all the players were exactly the same in the economy was just this week.
We got to start by doing that and then look at spending restraint but don't count on it just elected a president who doesn't want spending restraint.
Grover Norquist we will speak again.
Thank you for coming by today --
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