New assault on Christianity, freedom of speech in America
What would the Founding Fathers think?
- Duration 12:30
- Date Nov 28, 2012
What would the Founding Fathers think?
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Some people call the war on Christmas but tonight our focus is on every American's right to freedom of expression and freedom -- religion.
As a matter if you're Christian.
Jewish or no faith at all.
In 2012 and right now it's the Christians who are under siege by government officials an anti religion groups.
Who think Christmas and christianity.
Have no business in the public arena.
Exhibit number one.
In Kansas city of fuel has been forced to remove the -- from -- city CL after an atheist group complaint.
Exhibit number two in north Carolina at western Piedmont community college students were told they weren't allowed to sell -- mysteries.
If they were called Christmas tree.
They wanted to call them holiday -- on to their school finally -- And finally in Rhode Island exhibit number three.
Lincoln Chafee is -- backing down.
The liberal governor refuses to call a Christmas tree -- Christmas tree.
Once again he wants the holiday tree and his office didn't even want to have a lighting ceremony this year.
He -- only after enormous pressure.
So Eric this is the turn -- plane now because that for years the liberals have said -- that the right.
The conservatives are against the for and a First Amendment are against freedom of expression well we're seeing quite the contrary at play right now right.
And we'll do it again let's read the First Amendment of the constitution shall we -- that the -- -- you're not just this the first on congress shall make no law or respecting an establishment of religion.
Or prohibiting the free exercise.
There or prohibiting the free exercise -- up its groups like freedom from religion -- that the problem.
There at Wisconsin based group that find different municipalities around the country and they go make their make of their project they go trying to get on TV make enough ridiculous.
-- -- so that what people pick it up and say -- it really is this is would this fall under the First Amendment -- constitution free speech or religion First Amendment.
Back off -- from -- it can't stand that group.
I did it wouldn't talk about a couple of the specifics actually sent that are illustrating this point what's going on.
Across this country right now what we're all watching it they continue to blame the right.
And in fact when you look at who's culpable we'll start with Kansas that is is in the city of the -- alert.
They're gonna remove the cross from their city CL and from all city properties because.
This group freedom from religion foundation complained that it violates the establishment cause of the constitution.
So one of the things and I looked into with this is that that the the seal was redesigned 24 years ago that's when a lot of these lawsuits happen but they we're trying to do here not make a religious point they were -- -- historic point because -- the city was established.
By mennonite immigrants who -- seeking refuge from -- religious persecution so this is a historic point and is something that marks the town it makes it different and that they have.
A point in history to look -- I don't think that anyone but the cross -- trying to make a religious point necessarily though they might be faithful Christians.
But the fact that their town was founded you can't run away from your history no one does not now -- The process from the -- from the CDC on redesigning -- I believe your people and not the Irish people to Puerto Rican people out blames illegal people -- how.
The the law illegal people of this world.
It's a fear of using taxpayer money to defend the right to show the cross that's having everybody cave.
And this -- -- thirteen 150 people say all right.
We'll take it off it just to expend it bit by we -- -- people to donate their legal -- -- in there or send money to get hometown lawyer to take out.
Course -- -- -- burn and by the way to extradite all liberals and is all liberals are responsible for this is ridiculous that's clear yet but but the I mean I think the idea that sales a Christmas -- sales or -- -- around it ought to be Christian history that's what it is you -- menorah put a -- Mexico -- -- That matter to me but some -- they get up wedeman in the NB Mueller there is the distinction and that is this is a city.
It takes federal state and local monies.
And when you have a cross on your even despite the history of it and and the -- knights were persecuted and they did go there that does draw the line to me between church -- state.
Well what about say about that by the way for freedom from religion.
Picks are different municipalities I remember last last year there's one in Texas outside Waco.
Where they wanted the -- that they wanted them to remove a Manger scene because it was a public park across the street and people in the -- -- -- -- every -- ridiculous today it'll take down -- where do you draw the guys.
This this is -- permanent seal seal of a city.
That's a lot different than a Christmas display.
And I love the part yeah I think this is -- -- that they're deciding that its financing more feasible and economic it.
Remove sealed redesigning it hold a contest in the city and it'll cost 2500 -- -- and then you have a law firm fight this and potentially I wish I had the but that doesn't change the facts that this is a permanent seal 365.
Days a year and it does shot -- you could find.
Historic towns all across at least -- all across America but certainly on the eastern seaboard.
That have some sort of religious.
Founding that use that in there documents and are an Arab -- seals at at that point that they would take city or state or federal money but what.
What entity doesn't take city state or federal money -- that is all product yes.
Bush you can -- -- -- -- -- assure that there are tremendous -- maybe there are but I would be very surprised if there are because they would have been sued by now if that would be the case.
But the fact is that you're taking money collective -- money from people who are of different face.
And it's going to be used to -- -- piece of that lot of people doing it every one of the people of dealer or the town in Texas are OK with this that don't are Kobe goes together I don't know but -- but apples and our very down lies the difference is freedom from religion they they go seek out these situations when the people in the towns themselves say.
We don't want your help.
We don't have a problem with the Manger scene -- the cross on -- -- that is happening across the country it's insidious nature of which is most disturbing and -- -- putting together the pieces there so people can -- ran second to -- in fighting idea of doing away with -- -- -- public private -- property I think that's ridiculous that -- -- -- But that is very different did a symbol of -- its seal -- missed an attempt.
-- -- take a walk with me in North Carolina area to -- so I can find let's discuss it western Piedmont community college so this is the one we discussed in our exhibit two ha ha -- hot there we get take a look at those beautiful trees.
Phone now and you didn't call them Christmas trees -- you better call them holiday -- or their out.
-- I think is it's actually -- particular gives his group was raising money for children -- -- inevitable that it but.
It's only Arab all right I mean this so get another walked it back to reason they want to back was -- got bad publicity otherwise if -- were kept on and and bad that they.
This is the kind of thing that that gives personal allows a right wingers to blame everything in the left corner on all the stuff so you ought to stop doing -- number number number two.
It's a Christmas tree.
They get it Christmas tree -- have a little.
-- -- I'm about to beyond just a White House over the weekend that the Obama has accepted the Christmas tree and had to -- him being -- happened in the blue room to back his innocence here isn't it every day.
Project that -- -- Q what about the whole our whole I missed it actually you know your let's use your example of us take -- state and federal.
The White House is built with our money I -- I had my I have no surprise that Obama therefore call it a holiday I have no problem with.
Doing things like Christmas tree in the White House -- menorah or heard -- seen in a public -- I have no problem I just said in this one case I think Slobodan I think -- I.
I will say this I can't as a group as a five which I'm not officially a member and -- you're -- you're not a trap right.
It really know of course I would say we should ban together.
And promised never to attend a western Piedmont College game scrimmage or even the dogs and I -- a good idea that I got -- give -- -- season tickets and I -- Respect the back.
The fact is that they still -- these students wanted to not do it let's not go there.
I want season tickets -- yet.
That's the way Bob make the sacrificed stand for something.
-- -- OK so let's go to Rhode Island now this is another and you know hot story the people are talking about because.
Ever been to a holiday tree lighting in this is really appropriate because right now a lot of yards and -- -- will happen.
But at Christmas tree lighting -- trying kind of -- the traffic is her respect that but what's going not -- Rhode Island is they were gonna hold -- holiday tree lighting because you can't call it a Christmas tree lighting again the same type of.
Yeah -- asked you this isn't it it's -- last year this is Lincoln Chafee who is.
Pretty wacky would you say entry -- turn out like Steve -- every cent of that yeah it's unbelievable and it's getting on my nerves I think we think so morality and this is one of the -- gonna have.
So that he decides I'll tell you what since it was so controversial -- -- -- -- Just I even have a tree lighting and the people relatively -- -- -- that they want -- tree -- you just can't go to.
Holiday -- first of all he's not a whacko who wanted to good guy and he does the good governor but he went back in the with the previous governorship however.
What do you think you put a trio form for election and -- look for what.
Else's is that enough to call it.
And that that is is part of that one of the holiday that's why -- we try to alienate the people Rhode -- best of -- debt investments or get out to multiple price and we celebrated bowl.
-- I mean you don't complain about.
-- been -- for the rest of you expensive bank holiday estimates there.
And I think that they've probably in Rhode Island in the governor's staff -- Round about July they have -- brains from meeting at their planning for the next six months and on the agenda is a question of how can we drive the right.
Raising this year but -- got it right this is we didn't.
But he is a kind of Republican.
Billy said he said look times -- diet and it and it doesn't get you that because they don't like them on the right -- the left.
He he says hey we used to say the lord's prayer in school we moved on from that essentially say get over it people.
Call it a holiday atheists want us to believe and it I don't know if -- -- the -- example.
There's -- -- example on every single bill we have every coin in god we trust I mean there it is it's money.
It's god these guys always doesn't say great -- -- you know -- did.
That -- about beauty he says come back we used to the lord affirmative yes you know we -- deed on Friday but fish fish they lied good Catholics.
I love 56 at tasty and about -- -- also because about lobbyists and they figured it out and waited and if they can't they can't beat our school I didn't eat fish sticks just like got.
Real quick because this is an example of the type of speech that the left.
Like -- -- -- just WikiLeaks says suspect -- Manning right he's looking at thirty tee rather.
-- that's what he wanted to -- Ellis is that was has been very arrogant quite familiar with the what do you think of that look at the tax position in the hypocrisy life in prison.
He and he jeopardized he jeopardized national security that is only supported by the last sponsored -- -- you can have a holiday tree in his cell they -- I would not take it any -- -- not take anyone from the left seriously about Manning until they.
Support and -- get out of the out of jail the video maker who was jailed after you have.
Video you've -- right up on Eric's little old show I said on that show that they ought to let get a big -- -- together and shoot just -- you know how much he had to go over that.
And now I gotta get a monkeys -- hope he's treasonous -- nevertheless -- -- what.
The top -- he -- he is treasonous and they could've actually saw the death panel right that they did not and yes a tremendous amount of support the defense -- a call at least 48 witnesses on his behalf they feel that he should be free -- -- political prisoner he's complained about his confinement.
And Kwan it we think it's a -- Of this guy he's there isn't even find -- -- on the front line defense out of the get a technical the well that picture back up there.
It's just reflect aren't you feel really good about this got me on the front lines from buffalo meanwhile I'm like let me.
He's done more damage than Zarqawi to our national security this guy.
Allowing all this stuff to get out there we cannot be trusted a lot of state department's international causes they still have not forgiven us for that.
Because we let this nobody down -- is there lies -- -- -- -- criticize the left says Bradley Manning should be protected -- the free speech and Chris frustration and that lifted I said -- I thought you're doing an album -- take you can't tell us back home.
I guess I would get well I am not very happy that I you know that's got -- -- tongue injury I have yet to outline how.
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