Obama offers plan for 'cliff'
Julie Roginsky and T.J. McCormack on the president’s plan
- Duration 9:20
- Date Nov 30, 2012
Julie Roginsky and T.J. McCormack on the president’s plan
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Let's welcome our panel today and -- hopefully as spirited as the last one I have a feeling so far there -- -- their collect but we have some hot topics to talk about today Julie -- against key is joining us former Corzine communications sector Fox News contributor and TJ McCormick host good morning Westchester.
What are they doing what action this morning I don't know that was knows -- actual warning like I had earlier it not been up I've been up from diamond diamond we haven't.
I think he Timbaland not telling the TJ's -- I guessed Thomas -- and the Al Harris James.
You know you take one -- gas he would he would do -- something -- sort.
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And -- a bunch of them aren't answering to anybody they don't seem to -- going into this thing they seem to be leader list rudderless coming from the top.
I don't know I guess I don't know it's I think it's all kind of a wait and see thing that's a lot of there.
Rhetoric flying around it's not a phone we could try to console and see if -- even not even easier.
Now they are answering nice for -- -- what about the switch -- call -- if you answers okay.
Are they listening to their constituents.
How often do you think Americans are after the election expressing their -- well you know I think that Americans have expressed their views -- the election I think the problem is you know especially in the house he's district so gerrymandered the majority of Republicans in the house for example one with -- over 60% of the vote.
-- you know where some -- compromise to have these districts that are so gerrymandered.
When we're together solid Democrats -- solid Republicans that your biggest fear is getting primary for the -- the left depending where you sit and not necessarily being.
Had -- election we have to appeal to moderate middle of the road electric.
These guys you know that's why there's got to touch what are -- lame duck session right now.
What's to stop congress from remaining and a lame duck situation.
In front of the next four years where's the senate and if they hope that it's -- public elected.
A little bit more of the same meeting with a few tweaks if the president decides.
Where's the incentive for them to do anything different well.
The incentive is I guess that they're gonna be shamed by.
First the media and then their constituents.
-- -- something because obviously what's the ceiling collapses.
They're gonna happen to something -- -- he just had -- election is you have to answer to the voters but.
You know the beauty of Washington is -- -- having worked out there happening if you happen to the eight love.
Taking this the last possible second and they say okay -- -- -- to do this that is going to be happy but.
You know with with the advent of constant media town -- of posturing -- -- -- don't we had constant media and custom posturing the last time we hit it really did we came across this situation at this the cliff in the MD at the ceiling and all the other.
Barry was and then they kicked it down the road now here we are the same position but you know I think it also you can -- -- has been given to the to the plan that the president -- submitted as of now that the thing that excitement delivered.
It's fiction as it contains nothing in the area about compromise it's all spending spending spending.
Tax -- well but I think there's a bit but there's -- that happens because of the president's -- -- putting a marker down.
As he should have done over the past four years he never use the following -- this and he started his first term not well.
Elections have consequences.
How Long Will the way I can we got about the way -- to negotiate with he would sit down he would say.
All right I'll give you a little bit of this it's giving a little bit -- and then they kick the can down the road support he's now saying look.
This I'm proposing you guys for your own proposal -- don't forget the reason he's not getting specific.
And the Republicans -- I getting specific as nobody wants to be the first guy out of the -- On entitlement reform because the president remembers when he try to cut 716 billion dollars to take it out of Medicare you know.
Put -- -- Obama -- but towards other reimbursements to get accused of cutting Medicare.
For obamacare more and more and wire before -- get the benefits of it fully.
Well the next -- too right.
All -- how we can't think about the benefits -- detect and don't forget if you're of sound like.
I think I guess some laughs yes and I 25 year old child is extremely happy to be on their parents out here.
I'm happy that I have seen an paper well this is ready -- other things like that but I know I also think.
At the end of the day.
You know she's finally learn to finally -- -- -- negotiator and that's captain.
Different -- I don't really see evidence of an just I don't really actually see that he's going to be negotiate I really actually -- market I think he did I think -- how to how to budget but it.
How about putting about what -- bypass of constitution proposes -- budget every year whether -- get pegged at pastor at a different but he doesn't.
And that we're operating without a balanced budget for the last movies and getting -- hit and won the Clinton have included Democrats is a questioner -- -- -- that I -- -- you optimistic or pessimistic we can get to that point so we can predict what the these I think at a and W I think we'll ever have a balanced budget not in the near future I can't imagine I -- -- -- because you really can't have a balanced budget without truly.
-- hiking taxes even -- he covered everything will there be some limit on the debt ceiling.
Well I you know against the healthy pregnancies for talking about so you can.
You could talk about the does winning but -- dinner date you don't -- that's gonna do -- -- -- -- next -- got downgraded the last time that we are up against what it -- really because they kept talking about whether or not battery and a president and the president have played a big big part -- all that brinksmanship that did that that.
All that and that amount but now he's submitted this thing that takes that that almost makes it an -- level -- in terms of the year but let's let's let's you know.
Yes but let's talk about at a -- -- -- -- -- -- no but let's even Republicans -- but that's what you have -- you come up.
Put that in every negotiation whether -- way for you when your boss terror the president congress.
You start -- proposition eight.
-- -- it should be and then we need in the middle and except.
Everybody knows we're both sides these -- I don't it doesn't help everybody knows Republicans want to take something out of somewhere socialists are significantly cut.
You mentioned entitlements -- so much but how do you know what perfect opportunity for the president to leaders say you know what period god.
I'm gonna give you one little one little kernel -- right there what did -- -- to lose by doing that to her as well again what he's basically saying is here's the framework.
This is now proposing but again either of these guys want to go first -- who's gonna cut he let me have had -- thousand.
-- house in terms of Republicans and their posture.
And the bipartisanship.
What do you take from the meeting that governor Romney had with the president yesterday in the Oval Office it could there be something that could come out of that perhaps the spirit of working.
Together maybe not them specifically -- both sides of the I -- teaching I'm so who's skeptical of everything I I looked at it I thought it was just an opportunity to -- comedy to.
Nobody I looked at his posture I look at it is all for show I don't think Obama wants to -- one -- -- -- -- -- -- just -- -- because it's just for show and it's just politics and I don't think I think President Obama absolutely has a distinct from Mitt Romney and people like.
But I think you have this traditionally happened where you have not all the time but I think it's a nice gesture of saying we're a democracy that of the day.
The two parties the two people who ran we'll come together at least at -- you're right -- -- show but at least it shows that unlike other.
-- until -- countries we actually come together are able -- sort of -- Despite the fact its third election we're all Americans know they stature does it -- little -- and -- of course I'll.
Be exciting to cover that wouldn't.
I've got all of those who -- South America let's listen -- telephone at a until.
Last question before we go any thoughts on the Supreme Court in the gay marriage I -- iteration in my in the pro gay marriage conservative.
Oxymoron because it may sound that's where I stand I want this once and for all put behind us I hate the idea that anybody can get a benefit but he -- but he doesn't have visitation rights and hospital that breaks my heart.
Don't like it that's based on personal experiences with people in my life that I that I've known -- -- -- And so that's where I -- I hope they just.
And I think if you believe brown -- board of education as president how is this not mean separate people with all their call center you don't -- people.
This Arizona thing Kenya Jan Brewer for example she cut benefits for spouses of straight.
People that I would see OK fine but she's she's keeping thousands.
Where you know -- husband.
On the payroll of the -- that's different attitude now saying picture of the dearly and I guess it benefits sexy sex.
Separate pretty cool sort of methodical but that's just it's horrible and my -- Very very this missile -- in -- -- I think I -- -- -- about it but it the things her way in both of you gonna take a.