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Immigrants come -- new skills.
And new ideas.
Today fill -- critical gap in our labor market.
They work hard for a chance for a better life America can be a lawful society.
And a welcoming society.
At the same time.
Former president George W.
Bush talking about the importance for Republicans to embrace immigration reform it is -- theme that many Republicans are talking about including incoming.
Senator Ted Cruz.
Who talked about it this week here in DC.
I think Republicans need to remain a party.
That supports securing the border and stop the illegal immigration.
And in the same times welcomes and celebrates.
The legal immigrants the essence of the conservative message.
Pity we want to dynamic nation -- any money with nothing -- -- and.
That was speech well received.
We're back with our panel Charles your -- some moments where of -- sentiments I think -- noble and -- correct.
The problem is how do you translated -- policy.
And that's where I think the Republicans have really been hurt and they you know -- Obama that over 70% of -- Hispanic vote.
These banks should be a natural constituency any amendment -- -- should be a natural constituency of the Conservative Party and it's not.
And the reason I think is because immigration reform or at least of attitude towards immigrants.
He's what -- call a threshold issue if people have a sense that the party whoever.
Then like you -- people like you and I cannot listen anything else so that I think is the challenge that doesn't mean they have to embrace amnesty overnight.
I think there's been a case to be made for six or seven years.
That the way the Republicans -- approaches has to be very straight.
On illegal immigration you build a fence and don't tell me it can't work.
The Israelis have built a fence and nobody gets -- that fence you build a fence you stop illegal immigration or at least a river becomes a trickle.
And then generosity of the American people I think we'll say if this is the last cohort of illegals in the country.
To twelve million here let's legalize them.
Give them amnesty not citizenship take away the shadow.
I think Americans who accept that the only reason they rejected is because they assume if you legalized the co -- here today we're gonna have a new.
-- -- of ten million here in a decade so I think you have to combine them be very strict on both.
But be extremely generous in saying once we shut the border we're going to be very -- and accepting.
Of people who are here illegally.
Can Republicans get there.
Well I think the first rule of thumb from the party Republican Party should be do no harm and I agreed a lot of it is this language and we should the Republican Party should be doing more -- celebrate legal immigrants it's as President Bush was doing.
And Marco Rubio took and -- Arabia talks about that.
-- when it comes to it -- -- illegal immigrants twelve million people here I think it's really important to remember.
That California with 55.
Delegates -- -- of us yet electoral votes are.
Actually used to be a red state.
Until there is an anti immigrant backlash which led to prop 187 which banned illegal immigrants from health and education.
And that was ultimately overturned that from then on that was a democratic state and I think.
That proposals like self deportation.
Which hit home to families.
Here even if you're here legally.
On the idea that your friends or family might have to go home wait in line and maybe never come back.
That -- it -- home and I think that's viewed as a a hostile act you have to get past that.
Personally I'd like to go back to the day of John McCain in 2007 and look for pathway to citizenship.
If that's too far.
For the party that at least look at things like the new Kay Bailey Hutchison a -- legislation which would.
Make a pathway for young immigrants talk.
Well actually California voted for Clinton before Pete Wilson got involved in the debate over whether illegal immigrants want to have welfare benefits.
California is -- Democratic state partly because it's a state of immigrants.
And partly for the reasons -- Charles mentioned what's missing in this conversation is the fact that not all immigrants are the same.
Immigrants in certain countries one welfare overwhelmingly many Latin American countries send us immigrants who go on welfare the question is does United States need.
Massive new numbers of low skilled immigrants.
In a post industrial company.
Is that good for the United States.
It is marvelous to say all immigrants are there not some are some markets like saying all -- Sundays -- good some days are.
We need and Republican Party ought to be courageous enough.
To draw the distinction between people who add to the sum total of the American economy.
Who buying into the culture who improve the country and those who don't and there is a difference there are worse -- -- Well that this spring begins -- a conversation about outcomes why is it that certain.
Immigrants -- certain countries have not thrived in numerous other countries have thrive no wants to have a conversation because it's considered mean but when the future of the country is at stake.
It's worth taking a rational -- passionate and following non political look at outcomes and I still questions of why does it.
Attacking anybody but these are questions that we need to ask -- says the -- it's.
Protect what do you do about this twelve million people hear you say OK guys this guy works for yard landscaping company he's low skilled team we don't need him.
This guy it went to that community college maybe -- -- they.
-- how do you deal with the people who are already here these are all crux of the issue these are all very very big questions with no time to talk about.
But we will talk about -- yeah that's it for the panel.
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