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Do Democrats want US to go over the fiscal cliff?

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    Author Mark Steyn weighs in

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-- it is becoming more more apparent that the president of the United States is willing to endure the dire consequences of plummeting off the fiscal cliff.

Rather just sit down and negotiate with Republicans at the table and make no mistake this is far from some obscure conspiracy theory.

This is becoming the frightening political reality for the entire country but that's what you -- seeing now is a man who thinks he has free -- You're watching someone who believes that he was reelected with a mandate to do whatever he pleases.

Is ignoring the fact that a Republican majority remains in the US House of Representatives the majority that was sent there to cut spending and oppose his tax hikes.

Now all of this has a growing number of lawmakers now openly suggesting -- the president may secretly want the country -- All all the fiscal cliff.

-- that includes the Republican senator from Wyoming John Brosseau an earlier today are Hannity cameras caught -- with him on Capitol Hill let's take a look.

It's increasingly clear to me that the president is a very willing to go over the cliff and I think you ought to be spending more time listening in less time.

Lecturing and the president seems to be just fixated.

On increasing.

Tax rates even though they may hurt the economy and I'm concerned if we go over the cliff.

That what we're gonna see is unemployment back above 9% and we're gonna see.

You know a country where -- in a second recession.

I know the senators actually right what we heard from the president in recent days amounts to nothing more than condescending lectures in fact.

He sounds like the same hyper partisan candidate that was on the campaign trail.

-- -- -- wanna work tirelessly to demonize success divide the voters of America and as a senator just mentioned the president appears to have and downright unhealthy.

Fixation on increasing tax rates regardless of what the consequences will be.

And bring on the fiscal -- he says.

Who cares if we spiral into yet another recession and at home unemployment goes back up to 9% well that's not the president's problem.

Because in his mind if that happens he'll have yet another golden opportunity to wash his hands -- all of his failures.

And then arrogantly blamed the Republican Party.

And to make matters worse we're learning today the President Obama is a far cry away from waging this battle by his lonesome.

As usual his friends in the mainstream media have been.

Willing to continue to do whatever he wants and that means to say whatever it takes to try and fool you the American people.

Into thinking that raising taxes is your only option it.

And the extent to which so called journalists have been breathlessly promoting Obama's propaganda is now detailed in a brand new study by the Media Research Center.

Now according to this report the chief offender of that left wing bias is none other than ABC news.

Yes it turns out that in the three weeks following the election the network covered Obama's favorite issue which is raising taxes seventeen times more.

Then spending cuts and all told ten minutes and eighteen seconds were devoted to taxes.

Now compared to a whopping 35 seconds of airtime on -- spending cuts might be a useful tool and actually tackling our debt.

And not surprisingly that trend was mirrored all across the major networks.

And here with reaction tonight to that report and Obama's apparent indifference to the approaching so called fiscal cliff.

Is the author and columnist and -- -- Marc -- Mr.

Stein what we're back to -- sir hey Gregory -- -- are.

Let me ask you that -- -- the president I'm getting the feeling more more every day.

He wants to issue 1000008 Republican.

It's not my home.

Now I think he's figured out.

That this is actually an opportunity for him to drive a stake through the Republican -- In which everybody's taxes will go up.

And the Republicans we'll get the blame for it and I'm not sure he's wrong about that.

I think his strategy all along I -- said this in my book has so it's.

It's -- to see it coming through so literally is -- to establish 25% of GDP is the new baseline for federal spending.

So he needs everybody's taxes to go -- not just Warren Buffett's.

And there's two ways he can do that he can either get John -- to -- capitulate to his domain is he's -- -- to do we can say to hell with it let's go off the fiscal cliff.

And stick Republicans with a -- Is an interesting number that we have if the president this fiscal year that just ended in October if he would have the top 2%.

Pay in just a little bit more of their fair share -- on the government only.

Eight point five days yet and yet it's it's not where it's not realistic not an issue it's a rubbish overstated it that's some cold Buffett tax.

If you implement that -- Warren Buffett and all his -- It will pay off Obama is 2011.

Deficit.

In the 82526.

In 514.

Years' time.

Think and then we'll lead the next top millennium to pale his -- twelve deficit.

I I think the Republicans was sent there with a mandate as wells the president -- but obviously the American people voted for the status quo they voted for.

Divided government here's the question I have.

Because I want them to think about our kids and our rain kids that were taken a sledgehammer what Robin their money of one of -- -- -- -- about half of them think and if Obama wants to take this country all the fiscal cliff they need to be willing to go there they seem afraid of that do you see that well I.

I think it is clear from the election that you know a majority of Americans essentially voted for European levels of spending -- -- of European levels of spending.

We're just -- where 1% on the Canada.

Americans.

That conservative Americans think there's a difference between American cap there actually isn't anymore -- times a government spending.

What -- -- close to Norway went out quite the full Sweden yet but we basically are paying we -- spending like Europeans.

But wet why not tax like that and the idea that you can close that gap I think he figures that if he can make this level of spending prominent.

He changes the United States into -- European social democracy.

And he will be the most consequential president of the last hundred years he will finish the work of FBI and LBJ and that'll be it will be a big -- -- it seems like we're close and they were right there on the on the edge with.

All of the predictable results no -- Well -- yeah.

And I think you can't be a big side I think you -- -- Sweden if you got a couple a million people -- -- -- -- northern yeah it's just about possible by thing to do it for 300 million people some policies he's risking -- on -- on the scale unknown.

-- and that of course the other obvious point.

Is that the Europeans are only able to do it because in this in effect the the US army lives in Germany.

And actually picks up their defense -- you can't do it there's nobody to bail out America the way Germany's bailing -- great.

Lot of resentment tonight emerging as a relates to speaker of the house John Boehner -- -- -- -- was on this program the other night he said hey I wasn't consulted about this latest offer I wish I was.

This talk about Republican conservatives Tea Party members that -- -- from certain committees because they had a a criteria list -- didn't meet or match the leaderships -- schedule.

Is that a message to the more conservative wing of the Republican Party.

Oh I think timing really -- matter who's won the few serious people in congress is absolutely right -- be disturbed about it.

It's not it's not John banged his job -- make this math and up.

It's not John banging his job to find ways of funding -- three and a half four trillion dollar budget it's insane.

If it's Monday if the Democrats wanna have a three and a half four trillion dollar federal budget find they can be the idea that there won't be a party that represents an alternative and John Boehner is saying no.

We'll help you close that thing you do -- -- Republican do you think there's going to be internal squabble fight them maybe.

An attempt to unseat him then in the end.

Well I don't know about that but I would say that's a big choice for Republicans -- John -- is basically slowly.

Quietly.

Essentially offering himself as the guy who can kind of run the Obama's -- states more efficiently in other -- he can.

Provide slightly less insane arithmetic point there's no point -- he's talking he's come out with 800 billion dollars of extra revenue.

Somewhat.

That's that's half -- -- is federal deficit.

What's 800 billion dollars in savings over a decade that's irrelevant absolutely there's no whatever time he spent negotiating that was a completely innocent like Curtis -- -- is they seem to be negotiating against themselves and I mean they give a proposal Obama gives a non proposal and they respond with another proposal.

Here's what I don't understand seems the answer is simple if you're worried about the PR side of this little political side.

Pass the bill might extend all the bush tax cuts and then the president and the senate decides that the president decides if they want.

To raise taxes on the middle class or not that -- on -- put the onus on them.

And they will have voted not to do that I mean that -- that Obama has made a bet that the Republican Party is so in it to the politics of this.

That they will get -- -- that he can hang the dead albatross.

The biggest tax increase in American history.

Round them up next he wants a dollar and Howard Dean is the only guy that I seen -- -- -- other leftists have.

That has said this is the best case scenario they get defense sequestration aren't they get to raise taxes on everybody -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- I have the Joseph the and I felt I had to do something to address the balloting on egg -- you know that I -- that I'm an immigrant I came to America I wanna -- -- -- there was not a dog -- cannot -- that we we've got we got.

A notepad here cholesterol the government should help all of the other the big thing in -- and regulatory authority -- It's -- -- -- -- my half truth I don't landing in Florida that short time.