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Now Republican who is against the new labor rules in Michigan and -- -- Republican committee chairman of SE IU he also serves as vice president Michigan's corrections.
Organization we spoke with -- earlier.
You are a Republican -- and you are opposed to this right to work so tell me why.
I am because I believe that to generations.
Here in Michigan.
We've been able to enjoy good middle class with a good wage and some health care.
And that's all going to be wiped away with a swipe of a -- And it's -- weather -- Richard or doesn't matter Democrat or Republican.
You have to ask yourself about the process is being used tear in order to -- pass through some bills that are absolutely detrimental to this stage.
And are gonna divide the state -- divisive amusing the governor's words here.
Golf for a long time he's used that word divisive.
And as a Republican.
I trusted -- -- listen join my friends and family all listen to -- -- we all know what's really going on and we wish that they would just come on you can call it what it is here.
Which is why the union busting.
Which is absolutely union busting and then they keep -- the fingers to the unions and saying that's why.
They can't bring in good jobs well.
I absolutely do not believe that this data is going on the governor also said -- -- the other night that the states going in jobs -- -- The unions are standing in the way of any job growth here in Michigan.
It's a good -- people come here to have a good.
Good job and have a good wages and some health care and there's nothing wrong with -- as the American dream.
And it's looking right between her fingers and I don't believe Michigan's got to stand by and let it happen.
Do you would you concede that the American dream also includes the right to pick to choose and decide whether you wanna be in the union or not is that part of the American dream the -- of the freedom of choice.
-- absolutely but when you see this many people pro testing.
And I I -- a lot of -- good red blooded Americans when they see freedom.
They know what they're looking now that is not what they're calling that's when they look at this they know they're being sold a bill of goods.
Another Republican Party and I'm disappointed and I'm not all of them because not all of them voted for this I am disappointed in the governor.
My friends and family are disappointed in the government the only money they've brought into this state millions of dollars are not going to create one job.
Those millions of dollars have done nothing.
What -- that American dream -- out of the hands of all these working class citizens it's wrong.
Is it possible that having this provision where people can opt out of a union it doesn't force the union to be more responsive to everyone's needs because it if the union does do that.
Then you're gonna have complete membership anyway in theory.
So does it not mean does it not just require the union to -- to work global partners a 100% of workplace thinks this is a good good thing to do it to belong to the union.
The problem -- that theory is that is when Michigan is in hard times like it has done.
The unions do compromise they do come to the table they do work things off and I remember sometimes I'm always happy with us for doing them.
So they're gonna it's gonna play on their heart strings and they are -- up doll which is gonna take to leverage away there won't be any accountability here whatsoever.