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The end is here for Big Labor?

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    With Michigan becoming the 24th right-to-work state, what is the future of unions?

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Unions are losing power so is it a sign of what is to come across America former senior advisor President Reagan Pat Buchanan joins us now -- -- -- -- good to see you Greta.

-- day union started may -- -- country thirties 40s50s.

Is union today.

Different than it was -- have a different purpose and are they becoming weaker.

And you're not -- becoming weaker they've been devastated in his last 4050 years.

19513.

Of all Americans were in unions and almost all of them were in these private and unions in the private sector UAW had.

Million workers and things like that and what's happened here -- -- -- almost a mortal blow I think to when this happens in Michigan for this reason that.

Everybody pitched it -- -- -- paying dues to the union but not a member is gonna stop paying Jews and I shall keep the money myself.

And union members themselves are gonna say go to the employers say would you -- on the job if I.

Resigned from the union and they're gonna do that keep the money themselves.

The -- here is not to workers it's still that union hierarchy in the union structure and the union -- being workers are gonna be as well offers bail at all.

As workers in Virginia and Tennessee and Texas and Florida all of which are right to work states are those folks really in horrible shape.

There unemployment rate is lower than it is in Michigan.

We who you know -- Two different types see users -- private Unionists Republican in the private sector union.

And have the prosecutor is so vastly different and in one respect you know it -- -- -- -- worry about conflicts of interest.

But it's there's something bizarre about -- public sector union putting somebody in office right.

And then negotiated with that somebody.

For the person's wages or benefits of public services at -- -- -- -- conflict of interest it.

Mean I don't know how to correct it out by just know that it exists because you know eight -- -- -- the person you've gotten putting combat -- score well let's.

Right they go raise money for this guy they nominating getting nominated.

Then they elect him he wins by a few points and they go in and say that we want to negotiate a contract for our employees.

Joseph you and I are buddies.

Let's talk it over so you've got an inherent conflict of interest here.

From of the public unions and was look we're borrowing forty cents out of every dollar we spend.

And people are looking at it in many of these public unions when I wrote my book suicide of a superpower.

The federal government to pay and benefits combined.

The average federal worker were about twice what they are in the private sector and of course they got far greater job security.

So -- -- tax payers.

-- -- their employees or make an average twice as much as they are you saw this was behind that uprising really in Wisconsin.

Did you had to -- in Indiana it was in Ohio and pull back that.

But in mission do you.

Mean cadillacs where the option of Detroit veteran democratic candidates -- their camp things would you agree that private sector intact a much different and in terms of you know even historically meaning self protection needed to -- gather together to -- their -- -- under a union guy myself right down store and after side of the bid to -- I pay dues and I don't -- -- Because it's a good union but I'll tell you when I was in Saint Louis was -- journalist from 1960 Q I went out and the editor hired me.

And they told me you've got to join the union within sixteen months you're going to be fired then they -- -- union came to me did you gotta pay for this strike in New York union strike in York.

Or we're gonna get you fired when I was right now editorials against the strike in New York so this is -- it's -- kind of coercion.

Which is coming to an end everywhere and you heard it right here.

The folks in Michigan should we looked at Indiana they're getting jobs businesses are common in there.

That's why are we did they look shelf where all the foreign companies come.

You can -- Spartanburg,.

South Carolina -- BMW plant Mercedes plant Tuscaloosa Alabama.

The Volkswagen plant I believe Chattanooga Tennessee the Nissan plant Tennessee.

When foreign folks come into the country they take a look they should look -- -- -- deal that kind of stuff.

It let's go where we got good labor relations in the United States of America.

These ladies are reasonable those big companies though in some ways -- I'd -- the -- -- -- union busting.

Because -- they're only going to go to those states that venom they're gonna sort of put some governors up against the -- in order to compete competitively or are they gonna get the best.

-- they here's where I do agree with union gas.

All of these agreements NAFTA Gatt.

What these are magna Carter for transnational corporations.

To shut their factories in the United States where they get high wages.

Strong regulations all the rest and shut the factory there move it over to China cut your wage rates by -- 80%.

Produced there bring the products back into the United States.

And then that the huge new profit should make sure those -- your shareholders.

And executives.

And that's where I disagree this this global inflation.

Free trade they have really been unfair one place I agree -- -- -- was he was sort of Whitney back in the 1990s this.

They're bringing Mexican trucks into the United States drive -- -- want American highways Mexican drivers.

And to undercut American Teamsters.

And I think -- wrong I think the team.

Anybody know the -- well when the nice days this fighting that they had been in Amarillo but -- there were saying that that they're trying to defend those trucks coming in this country.

Not saying because it's a trade issue but basically -- it was a safety issue and there are a lot of cent -- to the US played on that.

Well about what we weren't -- -- investor why do you make American Teamsters.

Who make very high wages -- -- in -- -- a lot of compete for the -- in Alabama.

But not a teamster in Mexico makes -- 15 the salary and their -- American hours.

I think -- was right there but when Jim -- gets up and they talk about a civil war -- she just battling out there.

That's -- in the labor movement far more than that god got hurt but over -- right that we've been showing.

A lot here on fox.

They get up up up okay.

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