Halftime Report: 12/19/12
Tom Shillue puts the 'guest ombudsman' in 'Red Eye' guest ombudsman
- Duration 9:01
- Date Dec 19, 2012
Tom Shillue puts the 'guest ombudsman' in 'Red Eye' guest ombudsman
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We're back let's find out if we've gotten anything wrong so far that we go to young Tom salute for copycat.
-- It's not let's see story one OK I think you guys were all out to lunch on the story I thought.
I was going to see a unanimity of opinion.
Calling these people.
A bunch of crazy cranks that you all seem to agree with these people you don't think that religious song should be in -- first of all Jonathan yeah and it said if who -- who's who's hosting the show -- he.
-- -- -- He's dead at this makes kids uncomfortable should the school -- -- said yes he should but should not something to be something that's left up to.
Music teachers know.
-- that can help you -- -- I've decided is this is not about education.
Williamson but what he's the only Santorum -- regardless if they're doing everything if they're educating -- -- therefore.
On Christian songs on Jewish songs what -- it is then.
Then there's a certain feminist that I think I believe good.
Educate the kids in every religion ultimately then kids when they're adults can choose.
Well I mean we're talking about music here so you would you agree that if they wouldn't someone starting an art class should -- And what about public art that's usually terrible.
Well that's another thing I think any made the thing he said should she these kids be singing songs like could Christian men rejoice why not.
I mean the -- actually you know what I brought up that the music educators.
This is the -- and CD music educators national conference they grapple with these kind of -- -- all the time because they're always dealing with whiners like yourself and in their guidelines they say is it possible to study communism about indoctrination what we're used to use and -- I heard -- but if half of what we'll get to that is okay.
Is that is it possible to study communism without indoctrination or to examine the ills of contemporary society without promoting the seeds of revolution.
Then yes it must also be possible to -- sacred music.
Without the parochial -- think attitudes and sectarian.
Points of view great great for the music educators association the problem is they're guidelines are ignored by the schools and there they're all trying to be secular.
As for your suggestion what that.
It's actually not my suggestion I have absolutely no issue with teaching sacred music in music appreciation I believe -- -- -- why not just just sing song act -- has no match at a at a Christmas had had a concert -- you know week.
Didn't you separate issues.
Well I mean at a concert -- Jewish showing you what you've learned for the semester.
I mean in my eyes always saying handel's messiah we had -- -- -- hallelujah chorus right at my reported addict ever had at a concert.
I don't think you should be having you should leave.
Before seeing or or making it awkward for kids of other -- to seeing.
Christian songs and vice Versa.
I mean I face suck it up and sing the songs kids -- -- -- all in all honesty is really really easy for Christians say that.
-- -- Passing game plan well -- do we have to agree that is the -- do we have to agree with the lyrics of all the songs that we sentences seems constantly -- what you I don't believe that you should be having I don't I don't think you should be telling Jewish kids they have to sing songs about Christ the savior.
I don't believe you should be to.
Telling Christian kids they have to be singing songs about the Prophet Mohammed if there is such songs on big -- is that I haven't Federer but I don't think that -- -- -- the outsourcing -- -- But the problem I'm probably not I can't think -- that it didn't add up so we'll we'll -- we'll we'll edit data was okay.
-- you're asking about the F.
Number of Jews in Montana looks like about 12100.
Okay -- -- how many Muslims -- and I don't know I just I only had time to run for Jews in mind yet Yahoo! answers.
There's a lot of lot of information about it if you ultimately think about 12100 there's mortgages in the deli in Williamsburg and Fiat and an art all of Montana.
And and Catholics I love those Delhi's.
And talking to me if you've got nothing -- in the Jewish faith and their construct.
Well yeah I and I think did a -- that I harp on Diane she said they should sing songs from all different religions.
Did you did you do that in your school.
Again -- seeded Dinara that he said that but clearly we're listening to anything I said because you said that we all agreed and disagreed review it sounds like that's not to stuff.
It -- credit you're gonna happen with the guest blog you know we used to say we did as well we saying handel's messiah but we also saying -- Chanukah -- Monica yeah.
Anyway -- in the same thing we sang hallelujah chorus that -- -- -- arm.
All over the place my high school is very diverse and everybody participated and not because they were forced -- but because.
They are trying to fit in and it brought up like president brought us closer together instead of putting this in this box -- this and -- that box and that -- -- sustain this -- saying that.
Okay well it sounds like this that the parents in Montana are actually.
-- up in arms about these specific -- -- -- -- be singing about god so they don't want any of these religious songs in the curriculums that a lot of parents are trying to make it's about the kids I don't think it's about the kids and uses of accidents yeah actually right on that and any kind of disputed Jason where's your evidence all the evidence is in the story the kids are complaining the parents don't have.
Because their parents wrote a letter to the superintendent you're not gonna have little kids writing a letter to the superintendent.
How about little -- easy bake she was pretty got a writing letters.
Well I'm half airborne reserve.
I would -- I would talk to you.
Again sitting up here and seeing things that may or may not be true and asserting them as facts.
-- -- -- Well particularly particularly when you're sitting in my seat Thomas yeah.
I have -- it's not it's a great team who joins you alternated -- that's -- you know on Baghdad.
Our story -- was the person of the year from time magazine.
Here's his question his little trivia for the panel Mo Rocca will probably be good at this.
A man of the year in 1927 that's how it started the man of the year the first one was -- win that.
Did it become person of the year was -- 194719611986.
Or 1999 -- on this in 1986.
Six long 1999.
Yeah in 1999 -- It's not that long he was man of the year -- 1999 can you believe it you know that come along way and from the X-Factor it.
Also the I think that -- was making the point that he thought is that the the award for person of the year should go to someone.
Whether good or bad you are saying that -- has had.
You know for for good -- real he's been a very influential person that's kind of a controversy in the world of the person of the year.
Ayatollah Khamenei was named.
The person of the -- and I guess in that time it was the he was named man of the year man everyone -- up -- arms and it forced time to kind of back pedal on that little bit.
They did not.
Who asked the question they did not make Osama bin Laden they had even on the list he was on the list yeah I would ever gonna.
They always say it's not a prize it's who has affecting the woman who -- who hasn't -- of the world.
The great into the greatest extent that you're not -- that's that's a perfectly valid point -- that's what the the editors always said it was the most influential right good or bad which is why they made Stalin and Hitler but.
Things did get out of hand when they -- I told it was such an outcry that times appears to have kind of buckled under the pressure.
And they have not been you know following that ever -- and yes I agree with Diane that there has been many cop -- the last three years Ben Bernanke.
Mark Zuckerberg and then last year the protestor.
Ben Bernanke and not a cop and I actually thought it was brave of them to name somebody in that boring series it just.
Again we're showing that they meant that the -- I know -- to provide that no I was just going over the last three years I was shot I thought that the that the protests it was a couple of -- I don't think I think the bigger problem would have been mom thing was when he was named I think was varieties fifty under fifty.
And I'm looking cool between the that is definitely not cool about you that you don't can -- -- -- this man of the year he's five millions of copies and liberal with the translation god he's okay and the air here's another trivia for the panel the year that Osama bin Laden did not get -- who was -- man and the person of the year that.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Obama oh wow that's kind of a battling a brain easier than die quickly it was it was 2001 -- it was Rudy Giuliani right yes.
Think it's okay well I'm done this was fun thank you Andy thanks a -- top.