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To the -- -- now I should point out that the president just wrapped up what turned into fairly lengthy at a news conference in fact I think it took a lot of questions.
And and I get the headline on gun control.
Was that he wants action.
Not woods right now he's and empowering a -- Apple which will be led by vice president Joseph Biden.
He wants recommendations.
From that -- no later than January and put -- on a date in January but.
Presumably he means by the end to generate some pretty quick in the in terms of the way the Washington works and he says he wants that -- Act on those recommendations very quickly.
When he gets them let's bring in the -- now.
Tom Ruskin -- Bild -- -- former NYPD former FBI respectively as you well know joining us he would -- -- become the first Walt.
Do you think should be their recommendations if any or do you think we need any changes.
I think that they have to look at.
The guns and the clips and the size of the clips I mean.
It's ridiculous although the law enforcement to have the -- -- I mean this is no reason that you needed for hunting or target shooting.
For thirty round clips twenty round click here to study -- Clinton she -- here is pretty combat in the new York city police detective if you carry a -- -- carry a clip of fifteen bullets.
Plus one I literally -- as a police officer detective tour member of the service in the new York city police department when you retire.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Well first thought Jonathan I mean I'm I'm a Second Amendment person I believe in the right to bear arms -- do things right like Tom said there are some things we should be looking at with regard to what does the regular -- -- -- -- And need for either hunting or or you know self defense purposes.
But I think this whole issue.
-- speaking now just about the guns and it is a very complex issue and we're looking at the issue of violence in our country looking at violence.
In schools and places in theaters were all these things occur.
It is a combination of a number of things and includes things such as mental health.
It would include such things as I think violence in our society which is I I believe an undercurrent here that.
Is -- getting much play as it should because I think for those people who are on that borderline mentally.
They're going into kind of that dockside in into the evil side and that helps perpetuate some of these incidents and yes the guns access to guns which have.
Large amounts of bullets available to them quickly -- -- people is an easy looked up but I I would hate to think it's a springboard to say you're just going to focus that's not the answer.
-- it's not too broad and tell them just gun control might -- also joining us on the CIA operative joining us via Skype from my Boise Idaho.
-- good to see you your thoughts on that.
Any kind of changes they should be may need.
Regarding the automatic weapons large magazine clips at center.
Somebody sitting here and I know you can imagine what I might be thinking about an attack on the Second Amendment but I think it.
There are certain days and -- need to be looked at a little worried about and -- -- is chaired by Vice President Biden.
And you know charged with coming up would you know some recommendations in that shorter period of time that's a typical Washington reaction.
You know rush something through and then we're gonna end up with something Machida -- Completely content is an -- doable.
Or you know as -- and -- Director of National Intelligence is dysfunctional but I think any time mentioned it community standard and -- That's something that.
You know bit.
Could be looked -- it could be put on the table and possibly.
Could -- reach an agreement on both sides I think something that needs to also be discussed.
Is this is.
I'm waiting period -- the due diligence and background checks that are done that -- period of time that has taken from the does hired by a weapon until it's allowed.
Happen I think you have to look at something like that it combination of things that it that it could possibly.
Possibly be accepted by both sides of the problem is that this he becomes so -- -- so contentious.
They both sides -- -- be -- -- corners and nothing really happened yet.
And all of you you and I would talking about it and that.
Earlier that wet weather the atmosphere though.
Has changed whether the the Xia -- All.
The deaths of twenty children.
Perhaps we'll make people on both sides of the house has already made people on both sides of this debate.
A little less emotional.
In their reaction to it have been a little more analytical fast.
Well look at it.
Probably so for now and so the the issue here are from from my point of view is to move -- -- persist because we all know.
As profound as the emotions of the moment -- -- they're going to pass equipment relatively quickly in this day and age -- up and so.
You know why I think did I would look to see something reasonable some steps begin to be taken nail while the iron is hot and frankly go over the present -- -- the last thing I would do.
His appoint a commission.
Right it's been very very -- -- unless the automation and -- but they did he see he said he wants the proposals and he wants to include them we just hearing nabbed home.
In the in his inaugural address we always complain about how slowly.
Washington moves now Mike is saying how quickly it moves up.
What that really -- what I are we moving too quickly we moving too slowly I think it's a little quick.
I think to have it within a couple weeks is a little -- I think it's a bigger issue to Mike's going bill's point I think that it's a very complex issue.
And you have a Second Amendment which we all believe in and we all residents because said he believed until he believes it so what.
-- -- -- Knee jerk.
-- one incident or two inches.
And to Mike's point to three day waiting period seems to work we're not having people who have.
You know criminal records getting these guns -- -- these acts they probably -- to pass a background check with the.
-- -- -- -- pointing out that with with the background the background checks that the purchasing.
Of of certain weapons whether he was legally let it wouldn't have made a difference in this case because he took someone else's weapons in this case his mother.
Time right in this case that -- that doesn't apply it I think.
You know get back to this this issue of putting a deadline on to me I think it is a dialogue and I understand -- saying.
You may lose that didn't kind of in a mode of kind of response and people need to be drawn into it.
Unfortunately there will be some other incidents you know we would hope not but you know history will probably repeat itself to some degree out there.
And I think the thing is to keep this going to need to be -- any other aspects not just people who are sitting in the central government not just people who are.
On the cabinet but -- -- and other parts of of the American community into this discussion and keep -- going in alive and then come under the recommendations I think it's safe.
January want recommendation gonna move on it because -- I'm sure he does -- -- something in his inaugural address for him but that doesn't mean that's the answer and I think is a complex.
Question requires more thinking it requires yes and regularity with regard to clips and sizes and and there's type things but it also requires looking at the larger issues that are out there.
Why don't hear the hit list to sit on that panel of part of doubt be a very good -- -- like -- let me give you the last word here.
Before we got delivered to wrap this up.
The at -- we are told will hold a news conference tomorrow.
Will make that they said it will be a major news conference -- -- -- Obviously a big supporter of the NRA what do you expect them to say what you want them to say.
-- -- -- -- -- and -- there was quite hear that emotions are running very high I think the NRA realize.
They're going to have to do he's seen as giving some ground second -- to beat Venus it's coming up with some reasonable compromise otherwise they -- I just being -- its side.
In -- -- -- the urgency of the moment.
The question of magazines and extended magazine.
I think it's probably -- That there are going to be looking at I think also again the -- period -- and that's actually correct that when you make.
You know you can do all the -- go to the background here but -- somebody you know that was recorded -- -- You know has access to those guns and LT it's a moot point but could.
Adding that waiting period it takes longer now.
Go -- due diligence to adopt a -- from the humane society.
Right it doesn't so you know I get on not I'm not saying that dog in the hot fact I I -- -- -- as are others.
You know -- -- the Second Amendment by.
There are going to have to be certain things in this world nowadays it would have to look at I think helping out that -- look at.
Is -- the video games in -- -- to get my First Amendment you know free speech -- about that yeah but.
That you look at the top five video games and they're all extremely violent yet until I got to got to be put on the -- at the.
President told about the culture of violence that is something that needs to be looked at as well as mental health my great see -- that.
From Boise Idaho might make a former CIA -- along with Bill Daly and Tom -- here in the studio good to see you guys think a human being -- --
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