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CT shooting raises questions about mental health, part 2

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    What signs should be watched for?

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We -- back with Caroline reineck wolf and Carol we were talking earlier about the video games and and the influence that they have.

And I think you made an important point it just because a kid plays a video game even a violent when does not mean he's gonna turn into a mass murderer.

But if there is a child who's already got certain things going on in his head.

The detachment from reality the inability to it could be a trigger points to take him off to where most kids wouldn't go.

And that's the context that you have to put this in -- that's people parents teachers.

Friends you know we have an issue with friends not wanting to wrap their friends and other -- on them.

On friends of many of these individuals could actually be very helpful.

In at least bringing to an adults' attention that there's an issue -- they play their video games with a lot of the time.

They're friends.

So I think again it needs to be looked dead in the bigger picture and what else is going on -- -- bigger picture in addition to just watching the video games but as you said -- yes it could certainly act as a trigger.

It's so easy to look back can -- certain signs and people are now -- This mother Shirley must have seen behavioral.

Tendencies and her son she pulled -- out of school at home schooled him.

Reports are that she had a collection of guns taught him how to use them.

Talk about some red flags -- that you could identify in this situation.

Based on what we do know realizing that it's incomplete picture at this point.

Well we found that we actually can train parents schools.

College personnel faculty teachers.

To identify behaviors they don't have to become experts in the mental health area but they can certainly identify behaviors.

Let's start to move away from the normal behavior.

They the kid who sits in the front of the room all the time and participate suddenly is sitting in the back in this very quiet and -- -- strange things are saying weird things.

-- and parents can do the same thing they can noticed that their children.

Are normally happy and active in social and now are suddenly isolating.

Spending more time in their room having trouble in school.

On and it's really important to take some sort of action rather than just pulling them further into the isolation.

Home schooling them for example -- and I think that may not be appropriate in some cases.

But it it's isolating.

Parent should go to the school talked to the guidance counselors talked to the teachers ask what's going on I'm seeing a change at home.

-- And they're also behaviors Emmys for example that can be triggered.

By.

Family situations in this case you had a mother and father who divorced a few years ago so that changes to social structure.

I'm not saying that -- you blame the parents can sometimes it just doesn't work out.

But if the child starts manifesting significantly different behaviors.

Because of either a divorced a death in the family a loss of a pet there could be many things that can help also.

Trigger some of these behaviors.

That's why we work very closely with parents to.

Talk about exactly that what's going on in the home what's changed is what change has what's changed led to different behaviors and children.

And then bringing in a team of mental health professionals who can then address those changes.

Because they are again easy to identify in a lot of cases you just have to know what to look for.

-- I think people are afraid sometimes -- to raise the flag they're they're they're very reluctant not just on a family member but school counselors and others.

Because they're afraid.

Either of liabilities.

Or they're even afraid that they're going to be seen as sticking their nose in someone else's business.

Where's that where's that line of propriety.

I think as we see more and more of the use incidents and and tragedies.

The dialogue is just starting.

To be more towards we need to look at this we need to talk about it and we need to set up systems to address it.

I'm in the after the -- -- shirt shooting we heard about the behavioral intervention teams on college campuses.

Those are multi disciplinary teams that are set up specifically to identify kids at risk or kids who are reported to have.

At risk behavior a hot red flag behavior.

And then not just to target them -- the speaker -- spy on them but to actually come up with an intervention and -- responds.

That's multi disciplinary that can address the concerns there -- that are being brought to the forefront.

And I believe so unfortunately.

Now schools have to start to do that in the lower schools.

It's unimaginable that you would do that in an elementary school but maybe we need to start to look at that and to do that.

Carolyn thank you very much very helpful and very very practical.

Nice to have you here thank you very much.

I and I do hope that people will use this as an opportunity to realize that if there is some evidence of mental illness whether it's in your child learn yourself if you don't feel like somehow that if it ought to be embarrassing to get help.

We ought to come to the place in our culture where it's embarrassing -- not get the help.