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And welcome to -- it is Sunday panel plus with Bill -- Kirsten Powers lark Ingram and Juan Williams and we are gonna continue the discussion.
We have and our broadcast show about gun control we just got into it at the very last minute of the second panel.
Laura expressed her feelings and accused -- of -- and Juan hounding him.
How to use that that doesn't this guy and I.
I was I just think you know I share -- feeling I mean to mean what happened there.
Heart and ends in the Christmas season has particular emotional resonance for people who were parents.
But I don't think there's nothing we can do yes there's I think they're not guns in this country.
And therefore if you start a band now the guns are there we've seen an increase in gun sales as a result of people -- somehow that.
Pres Obama's gonna take my guns or whatever Madison -- -- is that there.
But there are real steps that can be think we can close the gun show -- -- -- -- gonna show loophole is that if you are not a licensed gun dealer you can you know if you're an antiques holder whatever or just -- -- then you're free to do without a background.
Much advantage of crimes committed by -- -- I don't I don't I don't want to bring -- different 1% saying these are steps we can take secondly I think that we can have -- government we can have the government -- information among agencies so that someone is buying a -- we can help that person has mental issues we can know that they plan that didn't -- -- -- I'm telling -- her son did -- -- -- the one who would say let's check on people around you who isn't Antoinette -- in August -- -- I don't.
Let's put it that they don't belittle it it's a real effort the man who committed the Virginia Tech shooting even ruled incompetent by judge -- complaint they act.
That would -- that information was not available to state authorities were allowed him to buy a gun so there is information sharing among state and federal agencies.
That shouldn't and can't take place -- a reasonable steps -- ninety.
3% of gun crimes gun violence murders and -- and murders are are purchased illegally 93%.
And those guns that she purchased we're not purchased illegally.
The question is why do you have handguns in a home which I agree with you if you have.
-- fears about your children that's a legitimate question about it -- so that is just such a reflexive response that ends up.
Accomplishing.
Not saying -- gun shows are popular places to go.
People enjoy got a gun shows if you want -- if you want to tell me that private gun sales are really the problem with violence in the country.
I want to look at your statistics look at John Lockett and look at his study that is done on concealed carry permits that's the most.
Comprehensive study done on gun violence ever -- We've -- here is done and I think it's we have to know the fact that we don't we don't have the front pages.
But the two New York tabloids yesterday responded to Wayne Lapierre that that.
One called on the craziest man on earth I think that was a daily news and that normally conservative.
Who do our post on by our parent company news -- -- -- -- -- Well I I don't I didn't find his press conference to be particularly helpful president that it wasn't the only difference our it was a space race issue into it and -- -- -- -- -- but I don't look to the NRA for the I think we should be able to Aaron but I don't look to the NRA to be helpful in this issue -- I don't like they ever are helpful with this issue.
And it.
I think Laura is right to a certain extent in this in the sense that.
Most of the crimes are not committed by you know by the things that I think most the ideas liberals come up with would stop people from getting guns but.
There should be stricter laws about securing your -- for example you know and and I think the idea that I think a lot of people who.
I don't know if this woman grew up -- guns or not I grew up around guns you know leave guns unsecured.
You know and and that and I think there's a problem in our culture where -- become toys and people think this is my hobby and I have -- -- but they don't really understand.
How you're supposed to keep them you know my brother keeps his guns in the safe my father.
The -- -- the other lands right and finally what about what about the hearings magazine these magazines it's edited that have fifteen rounds but here's the problem like that.
In the stand is almost every -- -- -- -- Even a -- semi -- so you would literally be banning all guns and it did it I don't know what point that happened I didn't grow up a semi automatic weapons -- a great point and you say you -- be handing out guns would be banning all guns -- would you say you -- go back a generation and technology must get what you would be confiscating guns I mean wouldn't it 300 and then also this is necessarily grandfathered in.
OK but we already have 300 million people 300 guns are owned -- million guns -- own in this country really have three million people right so.
Even if we tomorrow.
Band of these.
Missed it doesn't matter they're out there and what we're gonna have to approach this problem in a different way we're gonna have to look at the mental illness aspect of it.
I am not opposed to Manning the guns I just because gonna solve the problem because there's just too many of them and what you're gonna confiscate the guns and I just to the government.
Trying to compensate confiscate guns from citizens.
That's right.
I mean I'm I myself not a gun owner and not an NRA member -- their word -- defense in the interim if it was not a very aesthetically pleasing speech by.
When -- -- they are actually organization that have four million dues paying members and non coerced do something like.
Some unions I would add.
And they represent those members' views if they didn't I think people would leave the NRA and of efforts in the past to get to believe there and it seems like there are a lot of people in this country who don't believe.
For reasons -- express that most of these gun control measures.
Do much good in terms of saving lives and also I do think think there's a hidden agenda which is -- -- these days to move beyond.
These minor measures to some kind of confiscation or at least -- ago going -- there.
-- station -- -- what Israel about how is this -- Supreme Court is that you have Second Amendment right let me tell -- underscore -- that the Mayor Bloomberg and others tell that to people in New York City and and other places -- -- -- very difficult to own -- -- where it has defects and talent to our Rupert Murdoch who runs this company apple cited the example Australia -- guns were confiscated it from the opposite what I think about one -- semi the president -- -- I don't agree with a lot of things off.
They actually are -- say a member of the Jews had an organization dues paying members little bit rich for all these billionaires.
Who have personal security.
And I would bet there's security guards have semiautomatic handgun on them.
And for people sitting in buildings that are very well -- live in places that was appearance at that moment like this that has security guards downstairs.
Little bit -- -- people to tell normal citizens hate you don't get secure you don't get guns because we -- -- -- the Texas and we get six.
Yeah bill bill marvelous thing you don't need automatic weapons actually ordered that any automatic -- yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know the -- huge magazines with auto you know what I.
-- -- -- -- reasonably well let me just finish what they'll present -- more.
I mean I think that when you say.
You know the NRA is just ordinary people what about it's it's about the gonna own the gun manufacturers.
Who put big money into the IRA to continue making profits without any limits and that's -- you see the big hedge funds and Wall Street now saying you know what.
This is bluntly Saddam blood diamonds and -- -- -- we are not wow into the next -- you can.
-- you got a radio yeah.
I got out of hand if there aren't you ever get out of.
Thank you think.
That's OK with us throughout the -- -- -- blog you'll see what -- had to say.
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