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New developments in the growing gun control debate.
Some suggest tougher gun restrictions in the wake of the Connecticut school shooting.
Others like leaders at the National Rifle Association say.
No to new gun -- -- joining us now for a fair and balanced debate on this topic.
Richard good seeing democratic political -- consultant and former advisor to Hillary Clinton for president.
And Chris Wilson GOP consultant and former executive director for the Texas Republican Party thank you both for joining us this -- so.
Customers -- the question is should we find a way I've been acting new gun laws if it won't help prevent another mass shooting at us.
Hold a movie theater or even a mall.
Well let's not forget that what happened here was not a violation of the -- -- say what do we had a criminal who stole a gun from a law abiding citizen.
What Democrats are gonna propose we start confiscating guns from people who purchase them legally which I don't think they are posing in nothing that would have had that they're proposing would have stopped.
What occurred in Connecticut.
And I think it's a real problem from -- to step forward and start creating laws just out of the air.
That would have had actually nothing to do or would've stopped what actually occurred over should do you agree with them.
Well here's the problem Kelly with the NRA's.
Position first the tone death the public it since new -- a particular even before.
Has turned rather substantially against the idea.
Of allowing assault weapons to be purchased to be up to allow assault ammo to be purchased the factually wrong.
The fact is more children are killed accidentally with guns around the house that have been killed in school shooting since nineteen.
Sixty by far.
Third -- If you put eight card at a -- what about the other doors -- a school how about the Fort Hood shooting you -- the NRA had talks about well the only way take.
On a bad guys and the guy with the gun.
-- what was -- with good guys with guns and yet there was one guy very determined who took a lot of those soldiers out.
So -- look obviously there are countries that have mental illness that have video games they don't have the problems with guns.
That the United States has that.
The big variable and and that I really think that the public is becoming pretty come fed up with the notion that somehow or other we just throw up our hands -- do nothing.
All right Richard of course Chris Richard is talking about Wayne Lapierre the vice president of the -- powerful NRA who gave a litany of complaints about all of this.
He remains dismissive of President Obama creating a task force led by vice president Joseph Biden to examine ways to reduce gun violence.
And went up here believes a group we'll try to destroy the Second Amendment true or false.
Well I if you look at the overall goal of the Democrats it really is to do the David -- -- axiom of never tell failing to take advantage for crisis.
-- this is not a political winner for the Democrats.
Even at the height of the news coverage of this you only saw seven point swing in terms of work Americans wanting more gun control the question is -- -- -- -- but is this a movement to trying take away guns from the average constituent take away their Second Amendment Rights is it or does it not.
Well I think it is a movement that is the only goal and that was the only thing that the Democrats they try to do this every few years they look for tragic -- -- danger in trying to increase gun control laws.
Whenever the fact is if you look back at every single time more gun laws have been passed.
It is that the opposite effect it is not increase or decrease the number of gun violence it is actually increase and Americans -- believe.
That we're better off -- -- ourselves I've -- but I understand your point but Richard bloom the let me go to this point of the NRA also opposes any initiative to place a limit on high capacity ammunition which you talked about.
That could possibly reduce a crazed gunman from taking so many lives.
And they are against reinstating.
A ban on assault weapons which was used.
What's your response.
To the NRA's concerns because there were some lawmakers who say their constituents are telling them please don't let the government take my guns away but isn't really about.
That we should perhaps have a conversation please don't take my children and family members away.
Well of course look.
You know say what you want about Second Amendment Rights the president stood up for.
There is no suggestions from -- -- the health care.
Today where people talked about death -- some extreme thing that nobody is suggesting there is not a soul who is talking about going -- confiscating.
People's guns what they are talking about however is not allowing people -- or otherwise.
That get into their private hands these magazine -- to suit hundreds of bullets in the course of a minute or two.
And that yes the military should have but people -- the -- simply don't need.
And certainly ask the police.
Kelly next time we have some policemen on the show.
Asked them whether they think it's a good idea that private citizens having this kind of firepower OK I guess is you'd be hard pressed to find somebody thinks.
That's good or necessary.
In the interest of -- -- Richard and -- the bottom line is this tragedy affected us all and it's just a matter of finding some good common sense approach shall I think so well taken I think we agree on that what Richard just point out those already -- if we -- those laws were -- we get back where we are right now which is -- -- work when they're reinforced but everyone was looking for -- are to be perhaps more outreach.
And and provide more outreach it -- that they according to critics have been very dismissive of everything but gentlemen thank you Richard Goldstein and Chris.
But we thank you for joining us as well please have a good experience try to ensure your holidays you -- thanks --
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