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The pro life -- pro abortion debate has been leading up in Ireland that's after the death of a pregnant Indian woman there.
Woman was admitted to the hospital complaining of pain and it was reported by abortion advocates that she asked for an abortion believing she -- carry her unborn baby.
Her request is in dispute the doctors refuse to abort the child saying the fetal heartbeat was still present.
Abortion is illegal in Ireland a Catholic country the woman died three days later -- the incident has caused controversy even protests all over the world.
An American pro abortion advocates even pressured secretary of state Hillary Clinton to address the issue during her recent trip to Ireland.
Joining us now is Lila rose of live action she's the founder and president of that organization.
And Irish citizen Neve O'Brien founder and chairwoman.
Of Life Institute so good to have.
Very Catholic pro life country.
But why is this particular case strong so much attention.
From those who advocate for abortion.
Yes but I exposed when the first things we need to say governor's -- this -- -- tragic case no I am an amount of reforms volume growth.
I think everybody Linear -- returned to.
Our emotions -- raising fears subside from the mother and the baby in about ten lines.
But it's important to remember -- in Ireland maternal deaths -- very same -- -- -- and -- abortion actually won the safest places in the world from mother to have a baby.
-- -- the United Nations recently said we -- the most safe place in the world from a to have a baby.
So this death of course caused huge amount of saying.
It inquisition people who want -- hot -- why it happened before with -- in mass hysteria nationals.
But the tragic death of cities -- with that this is actually nothing to do supports national.
So the data the story was broken it was broken of the most sensationalist headline you could possibly imagine.
The headline in the Irish times went all of the violence and it sets woman tonight termination dies in hospital.
And it it's it's set to the whole world part of stands accused of us who this woman died because they wouldn't -- -- -- with not perform an abortion.
But that's the with a -- cuts because the facts and that's not to to a marriage and -- totally different story.
I'm -- medical expense came forward pretty much straight -- governor and explains.
That in Ireland where abortion is illegal doctors are almost -- to intervene to save -- -- One of the masters of our big -- that the chief of one of our biggest maternity hospitals say that this case has nothing to do abortion.
Of course is not a treatment -- -- to seeing some treatment from miscarriage.
I think he's a how to -- -- -- -- -- -- lost her life to set to -- caused by Anna -- -- -- virus which is very resistant to antibiotics.
So these these talks talk to -- -- But the became competes he drowned and in the hysteria.
That was created by abortion containers by the media and they would do that not much to try to push abortion on.
And it was in part because of that newspaper headline news that in that headline read and I'm quoting -- here woman -- determination dies in the hospital.
Now it's my understanding that the reporter.
Her self admitted.
That there wasn't really evidence but that admission came after the publication and after the damage was done.
When exactly because as you said the -- I went all over the world and and and the -- itself because it's become even more to start it.
-- -- had newspapers in the states -- in India reporting things like Ireland murdered his pregnant census if he's really shocking sensationalist headlines.
And family and to rest and several weeks after all of this nobody hysteria had -- -- -- the journalists who moved him into the story.
Went on a radio program -- to present throughout the program attempt to press her on some of the discrepancies Cutler in the story.
And she sent out the facts of the case -- what looks.
Times that perhaps an inquiry with fines that's -- and -- fast for a termination.
I know I think it's important that people don't know yes I'm happy note that the hospital -- shows that cities have never asked her determination.
-- the new fox has started to America what's happening in Ireland it's up because of this huge kill the hysteria that was manufactured by abortion campaign -- That's putting enormous pressure on the government to legalize abortion law.
-- of this has impact here in the United States because Planned Parenthood isn't a big debate -- Planned Parenthood particularly taxpayer funding.
And now they've moved into Ireland in a very significant way.
And and their understand behind a lot of the sort of the publicity campaign.
What could you tell -- -- other folks and in Ireland to be prepared for as Planned Parenthood.
Presents their message.
In aren't absolutely well you know and and the United States Planned Parenthood when -- them.
That hysteria that created that environment for -- -- wait.
Easing you know Jane -- who later on recanted and such an even -- an abortion and misleading statistics to check the American people that somehow portion was going to be good for our country.
And now we've seen millions of children who can -- -- -- in the United States and he was over a million every year.
So Ireland can look at other countries and know that they're protection of human rights is such -- -- and coming to fight for.
And -- -- it has been fighting to push abortion and Ireland they had that they had cases that they put the proper for the European Court.
Which some of them which were thrown out because they -- false cases trying -- and manufacture facts.
Check people mislead people and it's happening all over again in Ireland site I think right now the lesson has declared don't go the way.
I'm -- of the misleading abortion industry trying to make a profit off of the pain and wouldn't.
And hurt women and children and stand for as human rights like you're done for so Long Island and and America looks to you -- an inspiration point to take back our own country and reinstitute the right to life than our own nation.
You know -- -- And a woman in America and a woman in Ireland really wants is the right to have an abortion.
Now both of you are young women and neither -- you feel that the most important thing in your life is to have access to an abortion.
And we've been misled to believe that this is what women want more than anything I want both of uterus.
On that I think absentee governor we -- and these aren't my office so much for global abortion campaigners like plan and it is because Ireland is -- the proof the scientific evidence.
And you can -- on abortion and keep your mother's accidentally safe.
I'm an -- and the people decide her teen years ago we can offer -- answers to women and abortion and -- can protect a -- as -- to have -- That's -- -- back safe haven from mothers and babies.
Another -- -- and just like -- explained.
-- taken court cases a pressurized and our government and I'm raising -- -- hysteria to try to force Ireland to legalize abortion.
As young women the Irish pro life movement is rising up and saint.
Not on -- watch.
-- -- what can we learn from Ireland.
I think we should we should actually absolutely look time Ireland as an example of how a country should protect its women and children.
And when secretary of of state Hillary Clinton went there recently and instead of praising Ireland for beating United States that having a low maternal death -- You know made some sort of pointed remarks indicating that they weren't doing a good enough job we should look up to Ireland.
That you can protect the mother and the child they don't need to choose between one -- the other that human rights can be protected and should be protected and we should look at Ireland we should praise Ireland we should be standing -- Ireland right now.
Even as they're under this onslaught of attack.
From powerful abortion tests -- I -- -- -- Five while always a delight to have you and thanks for all that you do for the cause of life it's --
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