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And welcome to FOX News Sunday panel plus -- bill -- eleven by Byron York and -- and powers.
We usually have about a minute between the end of the broadcast -- into and we tape panel plus to figure while we're gonna talk about.
And in that minute we're talking about now should we -- 2012 should we do more on the fiscal cleft.
And suddenly we all started talking about -- sixteen I know we don't have lives.
And so we're gonna talk about 2016.
And it all started with senator Biden's -- suggested that the Joseph Biden.
Is going to seriously -- -- maybe even start campaigning this next year -- some of the early caucus -- primary states let me start we'll start with you bill.
Democratic side Republican side.
-- six -- I'm for Evan Bayh over Joseph Biden I want to say that now fingerprint that will help you a lot of Israeli -- another.
Also look at how the Iowa Democrats -- breakfast a lot of it's not a copy of absolutely ironic you get a Biden Hillary -- -- one of them is the nominee.
It would that Republicans nominate a young governor against senator rubio or current member of congress are rubio Ryan walker.
Jindal one of those.
People be first time I think since -- -- -- -- thirty years maybe the problems were nominated someone younger than the Democrats.
And every -- except for George W.
Bush and it was a little younger than Al Gore.
And they carry the younger Kennedy is one of the elections and out of I don't think Bush's older -- -- -- that that the younger Kennedys whenever I was assigned to whatever the -- to let's say having with the tradition of Reagan bush McCain.
Dole out Romney have tended to -- people in the sixties.
And it will be good for the Republicans I think to have to -- at this time skipped a generation go to someone in their forties -- the Democrats.
Fight it out for -- Hillary Clinton and jarrah they thought question at the end of yours answers and I'm gonna ask each of is Hillary -- runner and now I don't think so because.
I don't know it's just gut instinct is that you have a -- senator -- your thoughts Republicans Democrats -- -- -- Well I think it's a binary.
Process for the Democrats if Hillary Clinton decides to run I think she would probably not know the answer -- that today either and maybe the answer today would be you know.
I guesses and it just purely -- informed guesses that.
Two years from now the answer.
Probably were more likely she will for a variety reasons if she does.
That won't clear the field entirely -- go a long way and my guess is the vice president might choose not to run that point.
But if she decides not to run that it's wide open.
Think the vice president will go for go get some senator Warner you'll get the governor O'Malley and Governor Cuomo from New York for a formidable figure.
And you'll probably get a candidate from the far left of our party.
And you might look at someone like Elizabeth Warren from Massachusetts raised a lot of money very popular -- -- left she might test the waters and Republicans.
Well I would defer to my new democratic friend Bill Kristol about that.
After years of Democrats or any party in power into the pendulum might swing back the other way but that that that particular the Tea Party element of the Republican Party is just reminding me a lot of where Democrats found ourselves in 1988.
After we had only won one state in 1984.
We nominated good man Michael -- caucus but he had to be a liberal from Massachusetts that was just not to read.
Centering of the party we needed it took four more years forced to find Bill Clinton.
The Republican Party to my way of thinking is behaving like a part of that -- need one more good beating so then they choose someone who's a further to the right thing.
And it and the Democrats want to get a feel -- can elevate him and the Democrats in part but the Republicans.
In part will be doing this to themselves and that we saw that in the House of Representatives with the failed them plan B by.
John -- in any event.
I would defer to two are -- Republicans care about all that but I think they'd be well advised to go for someone out of Washington a younger governor that's historically the kind of profile that would be success.
-- I think Hillary Clinton will run because the opportunities just too great on inauguration day in 2017 should be a few months younger than Ronald Reagan was on his inauguration day so.
She's in that the upper end of the age range for presidents but in the range as far as Republicans are concerned.
They won't be able to go back to the traditional Republican idea of nominating the guy who finished second to the last time that the race was so screw in 2012 you had Newt Gingrich.
You had Rick Santorum and neither which are are -- We're going to be the nominee in -- -- -- sixteen so I think as far as I can tell Marco Rubio is running pretty hard right now.
I think Bobby jungles running pretty hard right now.
Paul Ryan may do as well as bill said it is going to be a really pretty stellar group of fairly young candidate.
It's an interesting thing is that that I think a lot of us felt that I know you felt strong like bill that.
Didn't the new generation that came to the foreign 2010 got passed over -- wasn't ready yet to add to it to rise.
They would now be taking their at their place on the stage that was that was an out of blackened 2012 you had a bunch of people that seemed like they were pre.
The to the 2010 mid term who were running for president and and all of the excitement and that the the Tea Party and all of that.
From from the mid terms -- -- that was represented on the stage -- those presidential debates carefully.
Hillary almost definitely will run barring health issue or something like that everybody knows something is the -- sixty right even if she's about this image about Reagan.
That fact it's now seventy is -- is much younger than it used to -- and and I just can't see her passing it up and she is the front runner.
There's no question -- Biden I think.
And you don't I don't quite meanwhile -- yeah.
I understand that that that cheese is going to leave with hugely popular red -- higher than four years ago.
But you know some of the new people on the scene had taken Andrew Cuomo or Martin O'Malley are a variety by the you don't think that -- -- it would be that generational.
That desire for -- -- assertion.
Cuomo will not run unless she decides not to run so I think and I think that if she doesn't run that he is the prohibitive favorite among.
All all of the different options -- these -- -- full full disclosure I worked for one of the governor's races but.
He he's a very talented very Smart person she Jake.
But I I still think in the end Hillary is going to run I don't I think that she has such appeal she's got the experience of having run before and and briefly Republicans.
Republicans it seems that Republicans are excited about this new generation you know Marco Rubio the Paul Ryan.
Have not put up against Hillary and I just think we're very difficult I think she would wipe the floor with -- -- -- -- movement what is it about Barack Obama.
I never touch would wipe the floor with them but I think she's she's got it she has now of a presidential campaign under her belt and I think that that's very.
Makes her even more formidable.
Never -- it.
Often an arrogant Bruins out that's what we -- from our panel and I hope there's somebody we didn't even mention today ends up being the next president and end all chances.
Probably well and 27 thing.
Thank you panel.
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