The 'fiscal cliff' blame game
Which side will take the fall if a deal can't be struck?
- Duration 6:32
- Date Dec 30, 2012
Which side will take the fall if a deal can't be struck?
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Welcome back to a special live Sunday primetime edition of the five as the clock ticks down to 2013 when -- evidently go over the so called fiscal -- So no deal yet but there is some -- -- pointing going.
-- I'm concerned about the lack of urgency here.
And we all know we're running out of time this is.
Far too much at stake for political gamesmanship.
We need to protect the American families and businesses from this -- top -- Everyone agrees that that action is necessary.
I will say -- I think that that -- Republican leader showing counseling good faith.
It just -- that well we're apart on some pretty big issues.
It's okay -- committee to -- this guy has been a blame game from the very very beginning.
And -- that we saw today President Obama -- to the Sunday shows and spend the whole time blaming Republicans it's -- off the cliff what do you think is gonna take.
The fall for this I say Republicans are just.
They're going to go down because.
It's just tough to run against the white house with a bully pulpit well and I I just believe that you can't worry about the short term PR effects of something that you have to do what's right based on principle and be able -- -- get up in the morning look in the mirror and say.
I sit on principle I did what was right and when Mitch McConnell speaking -- he is if you strip out you know the fact that there's all the other noise.
What do you sane is actually true I think policy based on fact is better than policy based on revenge one comment about the interview today that President Obama did with and beat the press David Gregory.
Yes it taped it yesterday afternoon at the very same hour.
That McConnell was trying to actually get a deal done -- to me the president actually wants an argument more than he wants a deal.
He could've been much more instrumental and helpful in getting things done and I think that the he every six months to go through a budget crisis with President Obama he could.
Figure out a way to leave and bring people together earlier they didn't call Mitch McConnell since November 26 and then they complain that he was there at the last minute.
I think that there's a lot that could be done to improve legislative affairs at the White House and that would ultimately help President Obama to say it was not -- -- that is.
Incumbent councilman less and it is these these late he could and impose yourself and there's not a weight doesn't here's the fundamental problem.
Leaving aside the policy issue which I know is -- -- -- ago but the fact is if I get down -- the policy of politics on bumper stickers you are holding all of this stuff up including people's tax cuts to dependent millionaires that's -- get a second.
Haven't felt fresh all agree that even -- that that tax cut that the bush tax cuts for the where the -- good for the economy -- -- -- Rather amazing idiotic that you're making you make each of -- sub arguments here that we have a lot of weight can give you everything here.
The argument is that you sit here and the public perceives you to be depending rich people against everybody else then that's your.
I'm not making an argument because if we go off the Cliff -- returning to Clinton tax rates basically what Democrats are saying is.
I hope they weren't good enough we actually like the bush tax cuts -- anyone -- -- some of the books I can happen on Wednesday I wanna get Kimberly hear about the president has just I think been playing a PR game from day one I don't that he wants a real policy solution.
I actually see one scenario Dana -- the short term in the long term that Republicans can win.
If he gets his way if he passes the Obama tax cuts if we go off the cliff.
And the economy does slide into a recession if we do get downgraded because there's not enough spending.
In the long term the economy will suffer but Republicans may be able to say we tried to stop this this is Obama's deal now he owns -- they need to.
-- better with communicating that exact message because really if you look at what's going on here Obama's been very persistent and very -- headed about saying it's my way.
Or no way I do you think that he wants it over the cliff so he can demonizing continue to blame the -- Public or in the dirt if you're on the same time he's volleying the middle class here because I don't know it on -- initial run.
But -- the -- inevitable.
That the Democrats will say you guys you Republicans.
You push it over the cliff because you were defending you rich millionaire friends it's inevitable labels on them and that is a winning political line in the short run right on the way I look at how well but you ask where is the leadership from -- -- -- delighted -- -- President here -- and integrated into American with a funny action.
But let me ask this question explained to -- to the American people out there right now why you need to protect millionaire's tax cuts.
In two senses a -- If you tax people over 250000.
About a second -- look -- that task over a million.
You might bring in all the best of views on site -- what do you might bring in eighty billion dollars -- -- yeah.
Sixty billion of that is already spoken for in storm damage relief a -- of hurricane and the you are doing nothing towards -- we met getting -- deficit situation salt dropped out I'm nothing at all and I will slow the economy so the deficit gets -- -- in the future that you Israeli lousy you -- -- -- in the Republican Party -- to say that we shouldn't -- would watch the last rate of folks ready yet that the defense of these rates these factories that little.
The point Grover Cleveland -- David Grover nor.
Doesn't president I talk bad about the tax rates on took they took millions of poor Americans off the rolls President Bush did I -- -- -- very end here at like 10%.
Tax bracket Bob what might get a lot of all those people forgot that it is is why -- jeopardize all their tax cuts for rich people that.
Actually Anderson and a singer -- friend -- this disgusting because for ten years all they sent with the President Bush only.
Provided tax cuts that benefited the rich that was the talking points for years well Alastair is like a -- will not and we didn't really need not know that I'm -- the long run the Democrats that are -- title song ball.
-- -- -- George Bush the debt balance of that money went to -- people in this tax cuts that now that the days of the people who paid the taxes this of people who have the money has been attacks -- an at an event.
I didn't is that they.
The economy got better because of the tax cuts for the very Liberal Democrats -- -- see if has -- the average average -- of him if Ford did not go up and halt during the bush years so what does that mean.
It means rich people got a lot more money hedge -- -- never thought -- -- -- what's happening -- is -- -- in the -- at the revenues that are coming in now -- what they -- in 2008.
-- that -- but they don't have enough.
We can't resume and on the spending side you're not in gobbling up not what you risk you are -- it -- up -- not the problem I got a problem I can honestly all of these are.
Hundreds of they leave people -- -- Tax cuts -- rich people I don't get up.