OTR Legal Panel: Mom ordered not to have more children
Judge orders neglectful Fla. woman not to have any more kids
- Duration 6:44
- Date Jan 4, 2013
Judge orders neglectful Fla. woman not to have any more kids
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I'm very strange plead -- -- raising eyebrows in Florida and judge or in and -- -- mother to stop having children.
The woman was convicted of child abuse she left her four kids alone in a hotel room while she went out party but now I'm judge -- the woman from having anymore children during her thirteen years of probation.
So can the judge really do that.
And how is that it's actually going to get -- force.
Joining -- our world famous legal panel in San Cisco -- -- prosecutor Michael Cardoza in here in Washington defense led Bernie Grimm and Ted Williams Bernie Kenny did that's.
-- -- -- -- You know people always taken the police do that can the judge do that of course they can they do it all the time the issue isn't whether it's legal in this case.
I think the inalienable human rights having children and -- creating a judge kids step between what happens if she gets pregnant -- -- Bring her into court -- abortions.
So -- one.
He calculus -- deprivation and anxious to -- -- right he -- order portion goes to jail -- had the baby in jail that it's given up to this -- it's very troubling this woman is completely irresponsible if there's a case.
To tell -- -- stop having children this is it although it's sort of strikes in my.
So I should and the fact that that the latest child abuse -- -- -- more than one is -- a guests of the hotel -- one child strapped into an overturned stroller in a hotel hallway -- parting.
No it again is very troubling and I hate -- Greta I really what should judge correct.
-- -- -- Paul will not live in Inchon are -- you're limited to be -- -- children that you can bring into the world.
But -- -- be very candid here available women his tell all over again.
These crack babies and -- -- world that women who.
Misread and abuse he's -- children when -- come into the world I just wish that a judge did have that power does judge doesn't have that power unfortunately.
And Michael Cardoza.
I -- today is a constitutional.
Fundamental right to have children.
So for a judge to do this do they do it yes.
Should they do it no will it be reversed if it goes up an appeal yes I think Bernie brings up.
A really good point.
-- -- -- the first thing that jumps into my mind is did the judge clutter I don't conceive children or don't have children.
Because if it's conceived children -- while she's pregnant.
She's violated -- probation but -- -- don't have children.
Then springboard enough birdies comment.
What about abortion issue gonna go hide the evidence and have an abortion that brings up all sorts of other issues.
So she gets pregnant she has an abortion to hide it from a judge.
Now brings all sorts of ethics -- don't think.
That this is the first time that this ever happened.
Down in Texas and no way to judge -- the name of Baird.
Did this exact same thing to a woman down Larry but he said don't conceived and don't have children did it stand that apparently -- did.
But when then they have this one goes up and appeal -- course will never firmness.
You know -- what they know we talk about this case but it's really in some ways not so unusual that that people have multiple counts of child abuse at the time she did that she was on probation.
Four years for plead no contest to child abuse she is charged with -- six year old son in the face of the bell -- does not.
Only complicated by the fact that these children clearly love their parents that loved the abusers and this is -- -- of the really ugly secrets in the courthouse is that.
These happen all the time -- court -- but anyway.
I don't let's take a look at another -- -- -- a California man was convicted of rape prosecutors say he sneaked into a sleeping woman's bedroom after boyfriend left.
He pretended to be her boyfriend and had sexual there when she woke up and realized who he was she -- -- resistant.
The memos and found guilty of rape but now an appeals court ruling.
Has reversed his rape conviction -- -- because the woman she wasn't married.
-- It's troubling really -- Orlando trying to cut cut under this scenario I can go to a local dormitory get in bed with a woman.
I can whispered this is Tom Cruise.
Have sex with their and it's not -- The statute to statute needs to be changed and got it about eighteen hundreds -- -- yeah I exact figure 1838 I think -- just turned twenty then.
You know and Maria grabbed her right not respect this that it is an enacted an eighteen said good to say is that -- Rape is what you have now.
Sexual intercourse with someone -- -- why -- All it is but yeah okay but I I what I what I really believe is gonna happen here this case has been remanded back down to roll call law courts.
I believe that they are probably a plea bargain in Houston and that just I will not get away Scott free would rape and assault this moment on Eli doesn't.
-- doesn't isn't your silly state had an AM -- they usually been to my right as a sexual act without consent payment -- -- -- -- a woman consent what you think some somebody else.
Can she -- sure in -- sense she can consent but isn't she deceived here's what's gonna send you -- up -- wall.
-- a couple of years ago it was down in Santa Barbara this exact count California thing happened.
In California I know we can take another -- I'm gonna leave Wisconsin alone now.
I've heard about equivalent to California fire ball correctly anyway down and Santa Barbara what happens is this exact same thing.
What happens our legislators start to write a law that law gets stuck in the -- I believe it was public safety committee.
And there it sits.
So two years later the legislators in California still have an amended this law so this type of thing is against the life the appellate court in this case was absolutely right under the way our law is written in California.
What this man did -- what the DEA argued to the jury does not make it rape me.
Why hasn't been there a reason horrifying but it's not against the law here.
Well what every presser at the seams are racially discussion others say what's at these politicians not do not complain their job -- -- -- -- here and that what they all do they all went on vacation and that basically ignore -- in time and time and time again has -- and we keep electing them.
And again and we -- people this -- this is clearly one.
Whether he's the legislature needs erase it and campaign changed -- erase it right they can't read the way as well well no negative reputation but the fact about it or break him right this woman if you believe the factually is she's presented them.
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