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As a White House is really ramping up talks on gun control we are -- -- be continue our conversation here.
Joining us now we have bill Daley a former FBI officer and Tom Ruskin former NYPD detective and president of the CNP group.
I think me what that means he's being used -- vice president Joseph Biden is is really beginning a round of talks today.
He is talking to you as he's done safety organizations in gun violence victims groups and then he's planning to be talking to the NRA.
Tomorrow.
So -- so give me your feedback on on and on just your first thoughts on the us.
My first thoughts is that certainly I think it's a good conversation to be having.
Probably you want to be so myopic that we talk about him in light of what happens in Connecticut.
Is that it's only -- -- talk about is guns is that there's so many elements to why crimes why violent crimes like crimes and mass casualties are committed.
That is not just about the -- certainly that's -- conversation.
But my concern as we get into this is that just becomes the only issue and we forget about the other -- -- ones which.
Additionally -- contributed to this whether it's violence in in in the media and video games and television shows and this type things as well that's.
The psychological and the and he and the mental health issues that are.
Fault in this is well.
And how much it is seeking goes -- that even the household in the family and you know how much responsibility it is is on mom and dad.
A lot of responsibilities on the families to bring this forward.
I mean the mother in this case it appears right -- in the nude in the new towns.
-- Knew that.
Her son needed help.
She should've sort of forward.
And as bill says I agree with him it's a bigger conversation and I hope that the White House.
Just doesn't concentrate on guns you know assault rifles and larger clips.
It's beyond that at this point in time we have to look at the the -- reimbursed.
On television video game is mental health programs and expand that.
And made that you don't work with law enforcement.
As an alternative to someone who might be -- be captured.
-- someone who might be.
Known to have a mental illness before with something with this happens.
-- and also as I was saying I mean it's it's a much bigger issue and in this case we look at what happened -- Connecticut.
I mean this person he didn't have the weapons he east all the weapons and -- -- access to -- -- -- -- -- -- -- home.
But it wasn't as though you know he himself we -- got a weapon -- -- out of the trunk of -- car you know and in some.
Factories -- someplace or did something else you know he broke -- he stole weapons which could happen anywhere in this country.
So to think that this would be the springboard for just talking about gun control across the board.
I think it's a very poor way to approach it and I think we hope we have a much broader discussion.
-- and and another issue today than some people are concerned about his you know if it was a gun had five bullets and it.
We would have the bloodbath that we had and possibly someone could could have -- have stopped this person.
Does that mean it that they shouldn't be on the market even.
But -- but.
You talk about clips of five or ten bullets and then you can bring 1520 -- and we view.
It's not the conversation conversation -- had a controlled us had a moderate how to assist law enforcement and give law enforcement.
The chrome -- that they need and the money that they may need to be able to deal with these type of things look.
The good thing this coming out of this if there's anything good to come out of it.
Small school districts are now having drills did teaching the ST -- teachers if students about lockdown.
And that's something that you and your group actually specializes in right around training schools to train their teachers and make their lives what -- him as.
Our group and -- group -- go we end to.
Assists more than you know to school districts.
Will education.
Institutions.
In how to respond to these type of things and what they should properly due to lock it down.
And it edited -- that's part of the solution we -- about schools and school security.
It has been and it kind of a cry -- may be on teachers who are too.
Have -- people with each one of the schools was so I think that's not a local level decision by the school boards having -- handle it.
You know having an off duty -- -- on duty police officer in a conservative number of positive functions and school if you can afford to have someone you know in that school district.
But it but -- think that we're gonna be arming teachers mostly be on you know pilots.
-- a bit of a difference and have been huge my family once somebody's still -- supply in the first place right and also.
The fact is that in many times people -- really trained to be able to handle a weapon that what -- -- -- and taken from the -- used against them and unregistered commission.
Putting on -- guns in school at the bill's point you putting more gun to school and really.
You think about it and now I'm not giving sexist but a -- gonna keep the gunman pursche she may put that Percy in a closet -- achievers who exactly.
But I he might -- -- Declaring I honestly can't carry -- yeah wondering in.
Hooks in them and they -- -- -- got like they hardly there are you there and McCain the act at.
Basically what -- -- and would you weigh in on this edit discussion is well what are your thoughts on and and Vice President Biden -- beginning his round of talks this week.
Valor my thought about Vice President Biden.
Well it you know it I like I like -- -- like the fact that -- Running this gun -- in the sense that he you know he would you know he has been known to compromise and -- While he's got his own agenda at least you've got somebody running the -- who has demonstrated -- ability to.
To compromise and to listen in the past.
What I worry about it you know what they're doing it's what -- you can sense that you worse -- -- -- -- through.
Knee jerk regulation.
In reaction -- outrage -- emotion of the moment.
So I don't want they want to have a reasoned discussion about certain issues I'm a big proponent of the Second Amendment nine.
A lot of problems with the idea that we're going to -- through something here.
Just so that Obama can talk about it during his inaugural speech.
But I think that the other time is right now where we don't have a somewhat not a -- discussion.
And at the NRA and gun owners everywhere including -- itself but in others don't.
Try to at least look at viewpoint that can be just got reasonably.
Then I think regulation we'll get him through that we're going to be very unhappy woods and ultimately will be very dysfunction.
Over questions to mind is how the senate by running.
Have there been anybody like -- don't think -- don't.
-- fishing trip.
You know I -- I'd like to have somewhere near salmon but -- not unfortunately at that.
At the moment I'm I'm not not not near the -- and run.
But he got -- -- I think I'd edit you know that bill and and and some of racism.
You know at some point that have been discussed.
Recently and and you know the idea of putting weapons in this -- in the hands of trained professional.
You know that's got to be on this -- looked -- but the bigger issues that the idea that.
Somehow we're going to do some sweeping gun control in reaction to be very very sad tragedy.
I think jet -- have a discussion but let's put everything else on the table let's look at the fact that you know the top five video games out there are nothing more attention -- them up.
Violent aggressive game but look at what that -- You know terms of you know the ten and thirteen 1415 year old kid sit there for hours -- NN.
Including avalanche -- playing the game let's talk about that but you know what.
They did the last that we want done that because they start crying about First Amendment right well that you can't get -- and criticize those people who -- about Second Amendment right.
Don't come that you know semi excited -- -- really good at -- we have for today thank you -- and.
