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    Heated rhetoric hurting gun control debate?

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Vice president Joseph Biden met with leaders of the gun and video game -- this week to discuss gun control -- remarking on the Newtown Connecticut shooting.

This is what the vice president had to -- Not.

Sure that we can guarantee this will never happen again.

As the president said even -- what we do only saves one life it makes sense.

It doesn't make sense to our next guest Jonah Goldberg and -- -- welcome much of the program he has a Fox News contributor -- editor at large at the national review online.

He says using this kind of rhetoric actually puts -- politics ahead of what's going on.

And what is best for the country -- welcomed the program here.

It is kind of a throwaway line we use too much of it just saves one life we use it for everything from guns still.

We should be eating better food you don't drink sugary drinks.

Yeah I had -- -- Really it's the problem is it's it's just flatly not true.

And it's a kind of rhetorical bullying that.

You know if you disagree with Joseph Biden about it saving even one kid's life it's worth it.

And automatically puts you in the defensive position of being pro dead kid.

Which is you know -- completely unfair and that the simple reality is is that if if we had a standard that any long was justified if it saves just one life.

Then we would ban cars we were -- plastic buckets because somewhere between ten and forty little kids a year.

Drown in their backyards in plastic buckets we have been latter as we've been you know.

Virtually every council -- we've basically handcuff everybody in America to the radiators because that would definitely save at least one life.

And this approach to -- is -- basically it's a way to give.

And actually unlimited warrant to government action.

Without having any win is significant standard for what the results of that government action will be.

We know it does take an awful lot of lives Jonas you know is poverty poverty does kill people and the problem -- -- regulating.

Economic activity is it makes people poorer we know that so why isn't so little discussion.

Of the costs of government action.

Right -- you're hitting on the basic point is that all regulation has to have some kind of cost benefit analysis right we know we would save.

-- -- we would save thousands of lives if we made the speed limit five miles an hour.

But at the saving time bowl loss to the economy of making the speed limit.

Five miles an hour would make a lot.

And so.

The problem with this this standard of if it saves just one life it's worth it.

It means it is excluding all other considerations.

Both economic as well as you know -- having to do with the bill of rights in our personal liberties.

Hey John how much you weigh in on this because we've been talking about this the crime -- murder in this country is down by quite a bit as a matter of fact and over the last twenty years.

We've doubled the number of guns and our homes.

Can you make a case there.

Related.

I think of course you can I mean I.

I think that they.

I don't I don't think he can make the case that it's all -- right I mean.

I'm a big fan of what Rudy Giuliani did in New York City -- group in your city in the 1970s which was.

You know pretty pretty just -- in an awful.

And what Rudy Giuliani in those policies that then spread across the country that have a lot to do to lower the crime rate to but I think.

Obviously.

There's a lot of good data that says you know that having an armed populace to make it more difficult to rob that populist John thanks for being on the show appreciate it serious and -- --

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