Power Play 1/15/2013
Obama dares GOP on debt limit, Sandy showdown and can Obama deliver on gun control pledge?
- Duration 26:09
- Date Jan 15, 2013
Obama dares GOP on debt limit, Sandy showdown and can Obama deliver on gun control pledge?
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Congressional Republicans refuse to pay America's bills on time.
Social Security checks and veterans benefits will be delayed.
We might not be able to pay our troops -- -- our contracts with small business owners.
Food inspectors air traffic controllers.
Specialists who track down lose nuclear materials wouldn't get their paychecks.
Was Barack Obama the president of the United States saying that -- Republicans don't lift the debt ceiling.
All sorts of terrible things could happen up to and including he suggests terrorists getting their hands on nuclear materials tainted food.
Airplane crash is and this is power play.
It's getting nastier I told you before it was going to be a nasty three or four months here in Washington.
And it's happening fast and do with that funny -- extra nastiness on the side.
So what's going to happen we will talk about that we'll talk about the debt limit will talk about the president's pledge on gun control and whether he can actually deliver results on that.
Or will it end up in the same place -- so much else in Washington now as -- partisan -- We will talk with -- -- democratic member of congress about pending legislation to provide.
Money for the victims of these super -- -- we will do all of that we will have power points we will -- engage in thrill you.
In many -- -- Internet in the coming thirty minutes.
But none of it of course will be -- -- you anymore than getting -- -- as you'd love to with AB Stoddard she's columnist for the pills she is frequently seen.
The all -- animal hospital report.
She's Smart she's provided it -- Charlie hurt is on the other.
But the other point of view.
Charlie -- is here he is -- -- patriotic I'm not sure he's fair minded but.
Yes he's definitely loves the country there is no question he's -- -- there and he.
Is that he can be read at The Washington Times.
And you know I was thinking that you guys were a little bit like Humphrey Bogart.
And Katharine Hepburn but then I realized that it was just that you reminded me of an African.
That's really all -- lives.
That's all I have.
The president was.
Fit being issue a little bit he was being over the top a bit.
The truth is we know that it would be up to him to decide what would close if -- if the -- if we if we've hit the debt ceiling you know this and I don't wanna be ending but you hit the debt ceiling already or more idiot that there are -- disappointed actually could have wrapped.
And I hadn't but I don't -- -- seventy.
But but we've already hit the debt ceiling and right now the traders moving money around looking for cushion change in the tax -- that'll take -- to the middle of February.
But it's up to him not congress right what would function and what wooden -- Right because right now it's up to them -- there -- already moving things around us and say they have the power to continuing these around if we get down to just step.
Small bit of money.
And the president has not.
Is he is succeeding.
And in that campaign that he's running so far because.
It whether he's exaggerating.
Order telling the truth or not about what Democrats have done in the house on debt ceiling -- what he said in the past.
What it is what his role as a congress' roll is whether or not this is.
It's a pretty new spending.
New debt spending campaign for old bills all of that -- -- His rhetoric is going to stick because he's -- meaning.
At a distance from the fight.
And he -- this is a tactical.
Failure for the Republicans is so far.
Analysts say draconian into this and he continues to hold press conferences and public events and and town -- and stuff on this which he intends to do.
If they don't have a hand in negotiations if they don't have him.
In deals like -- planned zero point then he's going to continue.
Tell the same way every wives and looking like he's above the fray and this is congress' dirty job and take care look up at one bit like he was above the -- yes no I think what they know I think that if you -- -- -- if you're in the Republicans.
Position and you look at what happened after the fiscal -- -- what the polls show Americans thought majorities Americans thought about.
What happened during that debate and who looks better the Republicans are the president.
I think that they should.
Try to move cautiously so that they don't get out.
Boxed by hand in in the coming PR battle I really truly.
Believe that the power of the bully pulpit in this default -- he's just.
It's a stronger than the power of -- you guys fighting with each other congress they need to really figure out what they're gonna do into it figured out quickly because.
As long as he's saying this is their dirty job.
Americans in large measure will believe it.
Trillion what's good about having 9% public approval rating -- is no way to go but up maybe it and so for many Republicans hasn't figured -- perhaps a good bit.
That -- at the same as McCain's -- the blood relatives and staff from friends family.
-- apple turned away and say no thank you.
But for them there is something sort of liberating.
In being held in such low esteem and getting blamed for everything that.
Debt ceiling which -- -- right.
If anything a word that shrewd as yeah.
Good position that they might be in but because every time that they have been in a position where people.
Are on the sidelines saying OK that is good you Boehner and McConnell whatever is going and you know behind closed doors and there you.
The news that the Republicans have this upper hand and they're gonna come out and then we open the door we walk in and again here even and -- -- Obama.
Are standing there and and McConnell and and -- -- up in knots.
Did the thing that I think I do agree they'd be about president Obama's.
Argument it's -- it's a very shrewd.
And utterly dishonest.
Argument to say that oh this is just.
Deals that that you all have already racked up right now it's time to pass it's him it's very and -- -- -- -- Is is of plus in politics which of course it is quite if he has it in he has it.
He needs is a loss shameless mess but but -- the notion.
Then he's going to walk into this debate like he just got here and like he is not responsible for all of the -- and you know -- and he is his uncle and he's gonna walk into history like he's now.
And an it's like I say it's true but but it it is your idea -- it's up to pulling chunks of hero with -- I was like.
How does it take a long time.
Internet I wrote you because -- -- -- you know this -- That I wrote today.
You can have it if you follow me on Twitter at cease -- -- you should do that.
I think you're both Twitter for you think about -- -- resistant.
But do you -- -- as he has -- Walt and there -- right crappy Obama caught in budget -- crabby.
And what I -- -- was that the president was complaining about all of this stuff but the truth this.
That for most of American history.
Borrowing and taxation have had to live in the same place -- holiday budget.
And -- Enron started it is that it bush started it but those three things hit it traditionally lived in the same place week.
Spend we raise taxes or lower taxes and we authorized more borrowing.
As part of the -- one hole and this is the consequence this stumble bum conduct yeah it is.
The consequence of not budgeting.
Right and good they had it set out exactly what president and the president has not insisted the Democrats in congress pass a budget -- more than four years.
Because he doesn't feel that it's important when he sends proposals up to the congress they're turned down by those parties.
But but he is not asking Harry Reid senate majority leader to pass a budget.
And so we are lurching from from crisis -- crisis he's not us.
Engaging on curbing the growth of health care costs that they're -- where the big money wise he's not engaging in spending cuts.
Each time to -- -- the Republicans have to try to hold things hostage and and we lived from deadline to deadline but it is.
Like I said it is not a fact that that the public can't really sits around worrying about that the Democrats not.
Passing alleged Indian in the -- -- -- war.
The Democrats have won so far if the president uses -- comes off the table activities it's no -- -- but at the very Republicans needed to.
Sure I don't in their home.
But did little bit visiting a -- did the very least this is the part that I finds most shocking about.
What President Obama was saying is that is that is the notion that.
When you -- that if if nothing else to having to raise the debt ceiling.
-- a moment to stop and realize you have -- it's the moment where you have gotten drunk.
You've fallen out of bed and just put your head open and he had to go to the emergency room and it's time to -- -- it will -- do you have a drinking problem you know.
Or if you need padded floor -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- But some thoughts from you know.
Johnny says Republicans -- -- deal of the debt ceiling increase for budget from the senate -- -- that that's basically what Jeff Sessions the ranking Republican on the Senate Budget Committee.
As the proposed.
And it's caused no small matter of heartburn in the Democrats are second beating heart so Johnny -- his agent dean being being 23 ahead so -- -- -- -- -- he had just robs Peter to pay off so what else is new.
Frank -- says Obama continues to threaten cutting off funds for everything that affects Americans that he doesn't get his ceiling increase.
It never does he mention what he the government is willing to give up -- he's -- that I want.
Money to spend or else Americans are gonna suffer yes.
OK we had a great -- would have come back.
We will talk about gun control China which is what you want to talk about it and that's what we get -- that when we return just correct.
My starting point is not to worry about the politics my starting point is to focus on what makes sense what works.
What should we be doing to make sure that our children are safe that were reducing the incidence of gun violence.
That was a politician saying that he did not care about politics.
And this power -- welcome back and President Obama says he's I don't worry about politics when it comes to the slate of measures that he.
He's going to pose to curb mass shootings.
And that Vice President Biden laid on him a little bit today.
-- yesterday that he's gonna presence -- roll out at some point meet tomorrow where thereafter.
And there is very little optimism.
In Washington at what is when he does something that he had actually passed congress that it's gonna rely heavily on executive action and perhaps some somehow owing.
So the Democrats and gun control folks.
Can accuse Republicans of stuff.
But the hopes of -- real bill that we saw in the beginning days after this when you saw pro gun Democrats like -- mentioned Bob Casey and others talk about a new dialogue.
That's like way in the -- mere month later that's a good that's that looks far -- so what will actually happen.
And there will be no quizzes on -- have weapons there will be no -- I was proficiency test as his previously promised.
Knows how congress works even if she does not I don't wish and the burning everything myself Aziz and from the NRA congress' any discussion on firearms Charlie hurt loves the smell of -- -- So he can lord it over all of us see -- -- -- he has probably the finest firearms -- here but we we would ask you to have -- opposite against.
Refrain but that's the whole problem you can't have a discussion about -- neutral without government mechanics of a gun that's I don't.
-- on -- I -- I know about pistols and shotguns but beyond that got very little.
But what I'm saying is that when -- win win members of congress -- couldn't draw went all about Canada -- medical leaves a lot about what they think that you.
-- like they had -- about money.
And they never do anything and if it is exactly where -- men and I are crazy people kill not guns.
Well and winter well -- -- because as he has no merit over family is apparently.
Inflicted on guns don't kill people crazy -- him.
So what's gonna have our right now we -- so extremely reasonable if she's -- it's crazy people are too dumb to get -- I don't.
I think they're looking -- some -- -- consensus in the area of this background checking line that never seems to succeed.
And I really think even Obama is not stupid enough to think that he can.
Sixteen and executive branch power we're not good going -- he can't mandate and band and do things like an assault weapons ban.
-- he he's going to.
He's going to promote research into gun violence he's going to prosecute people who lie in the background checks.
As this controversy no -- but he's going into what -- do that but now information.
And -- governments across the land is sitting in China limits on mental health records I don't understand why there is no problem.
Remember how your neighbor.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Wanted to bring up with the congress is gonna talk about without talking about mechanics of a guy.
It just too but but just two weeks ago that this -- huge controversy -- -- -- senate for over over Chuck Schumer.
To be able to put people on these lists without -- judge and it was an end and senator Coburn who have made this simple point that.
For veterans suffering from PT SD so did they did that.
The very least if they're gonna have -- a Second Amendment right -- from judge issued a judge should review it and Schumer.
Went ballistic and and it was this whole huge fight over something very simple like that so wouldn't we say -- -- a judge must do really.
These poor vets who come back.
That that -- that are truly broken.
And and and fearful for their lives.
And the most in a very often very responsible gun owners -- the word we're gonna take their rights away.
Because some shrink things are dangerous.
-- it could be what is -- -- what you think is gonna happen is what is there going to be some legislation to actually pass.
I just don't think it's going to be just -- the White House -- and I don't think anyone else who watches this thinks it's going to include an assault weapons ban they're gonna go very aggressively.
They intend to go very aggressively after high ammunition you know clips high capacity -- The problem -- until the physical thing is off the shelf.
There is not the space for any momentum on this issue and so.
As much as he thinks he can have a clean fight there's no clean fight until people's.
Cable channels in their living room no longer has -- clock -- the next default deadline so he is fooling himself into thinking there's going to be any.
Movement now in the best scenario if we got off had passed.
Any potential for government shut down through the deadline for the sequester -- in a perfect world it was replaced.
If we raise the debt ceiling with commensurate spending cuts and it was off the table as well we'd still be looking at a huge battle -- him like -- -- an assault weapons ban is probably impossible.
But basically they are -- Charlie and other people can argue about privacy rights going to go after -- kind of strengthening of mental health.
Information sharing -- some kind of connection between law enforcement community they've done.
Selling community and and the mental health community said that there could be more.
More information now I'm not saying that that's gonna work I think that's where the biggest push is going to be.
And remember when they talk about the gun show loophole in private sales.
That it means one thing in New York City and it basically means Christmas time in Clinton West Virginia so this.
Two Americas have two very different views about what private sales are the -- -- about private sales in the big city -- thinking about.
Swapping of guns and trunks of cars are involved in crime.
In the country people think about selling their -- shotgun we're -- guns are getting or giving us yet.
And I didn't feel that I have twice received -- -- for Christmas I I'm down I got down with that.
As a good is there greater -- as a good country presbyterian on down.
Had a question for you Charlie is this New York State has passed through the senate in New York State.
Which is somehow technically Republican even though as majority Democrats it's complicated whatever but the -- new York state assembly is on its way to passing some really.
-- gun controls.
Who you see other states -- us.
I don't know but you're positioned well what with what -- was saying about how it's going to be very difficult for them -- to gain momentum to do things -- -- we're lurching from one crisis.
I sort of wonder and and I'm sure she's read about it but I sort of have been sort of wondering.
All along is going lurching from one crisis next.
Does that actually give them cover to do like crazy stuff let's just is that people aren't paying attention to and and if you're if you're you can't even get -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- probably -- but -- -- -- -- -- -- assumption -- -- -- -- That I am about this government.
I am just assuming that if it under the cover of darkness they're going to be some serious -- -- crazy stuff.
-- -- -- cats and has it been so delightful paranoia as helpful and healthy I go to.
I totally love and that I have got investors Kevlar -- particularly -- says this.
There's a serious -- committee Asia.
Not the American public on this topic.
As most people on the street the difference in assault rifle on an assault weapon if you know the answer politicians routinely interchange to -- further propagate this confusion in order to gain political support.
It's partly that and it's partly just -- she's I often tell you hear there are two Americas they're not the two Americas John Edwards talked -- -- got America and not in America.
And guns to signify different things for.
Different parts of the country.
The country's deeply divided on these issues.
We're drifting further forward so that's not really super helpful to getting -- -- in dealing with things -- -- -- we're through we're gonna take a quick break -- true give -- some remedial firearms education here but when we come back.
-- will be joined.
By congressman's Falwell from who represents Silicon Valley.
And for some reason I'm gonna ask him about the other coast and relief for hurricane sandy.
They want new rules about disasters well they picked the wrong state to make the new rules.
-- you know that was that was Chris Christie he's the governor of New Jersey and he was cautioning his fellow Republicans in congress.
Don't mess with New Jersey and ten minutes they were going to start paying for disaster relief they better not use New Jersey.
As the time to start doing it if they need to borrow money to send thirty billion or so up to the northeast mostly in New York State -- New Jersey.
For relief -- late October early November.
Disaster that took place up there -- they gosh -- better do it or they'll probably indefinitely and so I guess I don't know -- no just say you.
Thursday exactly and it's here and it's all exhibit -- cultural that the cultural indignity you heard came from Charles heard from the Washington he's very respectful of the gardens day no doubt -- that is I think your opinion Charles or at least he did nothing but respect.
New Jersey yes quite so and AB Stoddard I get in on the joke.
She's from new York and all of the tristate area we actually don't make those plants of jokes anymore not in Connecticut and -- Okay but we are going to hear from a democratic congressman.
On this and they -- in -- -- actually we're gonna hear.
Right now -- wait.
We -- hear now.
Meet Internet Eric Small well he's a freshman Democrat from California represents the fifteenth district.
And that includes.
All of the hot spots for most of the hot spots in the Silicon Valley places like go I don't know Latino home to Apple Computer.
Hi Chris thanks for having.
Okay now here's the question.
There it's a little complicated today some ways you're going to have to -- you're going to have to go -- so we can follow along.
But there are there's a -- coming forth in the house today that provides a second tranche of money for.
But in it that's like nine billion dollars or something and then there's like a fifty billion -- -- amendment.
Like five times larger than the actual appropriation that's riding on that.
What are we talking about here.
Well first we voted on.
You nine billion dollar flood insurance a -- so that's that's been passed now we're moving on to money that would go to FEMA.
For direct he made.
And then beyond that.
Is looking at what we can do to mitigate.
The damage that can be caused by future storms so by the way I see is some of this money addresses -- short term immediate problems.
And then other money -- will address long term problems how to make sure that knows something like this doesn't happen again or we can at least reduce.
At the devastation that has cost and so it's kind of question have you only want to invest in the short game and I make you know.
It prepares now or are you interested in you know an insurance policy that can reduce how much this is gonna cost taxpayers and future.
Many Republicans colleagues say that investing in the -- is all well and good.
But we're borrowing a lot of money as it is and we may not be able to afford to make future investments and they say that whatever we spend.
Whatever you spent ought to be offset with other cuts -- -- you do that.
The only borrowing is the time that we are all on if we live in California or.
I say Hawaii for tsunami or somewhere in the midwest for tornado that -- -- and in my district.
How we have the Hayward fault line is in the district so that we can have an earthquake.
Any moment and it could cause.
Have a and devastation across the San Francisco Bay Area so I'm mindful of that.
You know we look out for our neighbors because I should happen to us one day.
And we want to make sure that you know we're not only repairing what damages caused by sandy.
But we are also not going to make sure that in the future as our -- Warms up and as the waters.
Continue to rise -- -- that also led to some of the damage at the water is about six to eight inches.
Higher because of what's going on global warming we have to make sure that our infrastructure -- protected.
We need more.
You down as a yea that congressman thank you for -- conference today have a great.
No problem -- current.
Charlie and -- -- we have no more time for your witnesses that -- was showing pictures of his dog on his phone which and the dog is very attractive what's the dog's name Molly Molly.
Thanks for myself -- act named after the terrorist front in yeah.
I know -- not me why I guess OK we thank you guys for being with us today we thank you we thank you.
-- But Jonathan is up next but before you get to the good stuff here is something to think about -- -- your power points today 360.
Billion dollar question.
Are today's power points.
How much money Internet do you think that we spent servicing the debt in the United States every year.
Well it's about 360 billion dollars a year that's enough -- twenty NASA's.
Twenty -- is that your first PowerPoint that's what we're spending and debt service.
And these twenty NASA's work.
We could like have -- brokers on Mars by now.
If we were spending at that point and at NASA I suspect.
That are -- to -- -- Nobody disagrees.
This is not any point of disagreement in 20052006.
Then senator Barack Obama from Illinois.
Made the point that the more money that goes into debt service is -- -- can't -- spend on whatever you want.
-- -- can't be -- on reducing the -- it can't be spent on the Pentagon can't be spent on social services can be Medicare entitlement nothing.
It just goes away its money that you don't have -- nobody disagrees that this is getting bad as matter of fact it's a hundred billion dollars worse than it was in 2800.
More is going to debt service now than it was in 2008.
That is a lot of money so here's your third PowerPoint deadly delay it's good to stumble from crisis to crisis it's great to exploit we've.
Traffic and cynical politics here are not turning my nose up at any of this stuff I understand but just remember.
Every can kick every time that you don't actually start reducing the debt actually don't do that that means that it is.
-- financial -- it gets worse bad worse and faster.
And eighties the cell phone makes just the point that I was looking pretty good.
That shot has run on the national day in and we thank you and now -- we like to do every day we -- -- leave you the word.
From our French -- It's you know if we didn't.
Do hypocrisy here every night and -- have a three minute panel every night but it is right it's quite staggering it's not just that he.
These changes position but the way he -- a program on the people who are saying who are saying today exactly what he -- seven years ago.