Also in this playlist...
This transcript is automatically generated
-- -- new twist now on a scandal at the EPA over the use of a fake name uncertain email accounts.
We cover the story after a freedom of information request last spring revealed that EPA director Lisa Jackson and others.
Used aliases to exchanged emails with some outside groups there was a question about whether that was an attempt to even aid.
Freedom of information requests on some controversial matters perhaps -- these so called war on Cole was the allegation that they were trying to hide stuff on that.
While the EPA call that standard practice.
But then ms.
Jackson unexpectedly resigned right after Christmas just as the inspector general -- in the EPA started taking a hard look at this.
She says the resignation was just for family reasons and denies it had anything to do with the aliases now they say this may -- -- with more widespread than we knew.
My next guest think perhaps.
There is another reason to her resignation.
His name is Chris Carter he's an attorney.
He's a senior fellow at the competitive at enterprise institute and author of the liberal war on transparency and -- the man who started this all Chris Horner we may never have known of Richard winds are.
The alias she was using had it happen for you.
Well that's true I've I've found a very surprising memo well this spring while writing the book liberal -- transparency about various tricks -- found they were using and including document destruction which on -- faces criminal.
Gmail accounts private servers private computers a whole host of things and I found that.
That actually instituted these secret accounts under an administrator.
Carol Browner who had destroyed her hard drive.
In violation of a court order I take that back our hard drive.
Claiming she didn't use your computer for email anyway that I find out she instituted these with the secret or alias accounts but.
We did ask for Lisa Jackson's emails discussing this war on coal.
And I learned that she actually created a false identity this is to our knowledge the first time ever a false identity installing a dummy employees.
Lotus Notes account on three of her computers -- screen shots from inside the agency.
Showing that we're taking this to new depths and that they're now beginning to produce documents the agreement to produce documents immediately preceding her -- resignation.
Now when when you first release this information to the public and we first got wind that we get a report on and I can tell you that -- love the EPA was not happy.
And -- said look this is standard practice they can't have.
You know people just emailing Lisa Jackson that EPA can she be getting hundreds of thousands emails just got to get business done.
And that's all she was doing but then -- was pushed back about OK then you come up with.
Jackson Lisa at EPA or something that is I'd readily identifiable you don't use your dog's name and the town of the street you -- up -- and and because it it.
Makes it difficult for the record keepers to find your emails when you get a freedom of information request for people like Chris Horner.
In fact we've now I think -- and that the forty effort of information act officers -- EPA did not have a post it note up on the wall Richard Windsor equals Lisa Jackson because they've been turning over.
Emails with Richard yeah Richard -- name on them I have several.
-- produced to us separately inadvertently and other people even signed a lease out.
And now they're blacking out the name she used in the documents they just -- -- -- claiming it's a state -- it would violate her personal.
Privacy it's amazing it took us until now to realize you need to create a false identity in violation of federal law.
To correspond internally.
This is not as far as we know -- something that everybody does unless they're proving too much as saying.
Everybody in this administration does it.
But the only -- and foreseeable.
Certainly can escape public foreseeable outcome of creating a false identity for federal record keeping purposes is that you would subvert federal record keeping -- disclosure law.
Now I wanna talk about two or thanks or carry this segment -- Americans this is important.
You know in your book you talk about it's not just the EPA -- such as Lisa Jackson that there've been some shocking examples.
Of non transparency.
Within this administration to try to keep.
People who have the right to the information from getting it.
I'm finding out what they're actually talking about on some important issues -- we're gonna talk about that.
But I do want to ask you did -- After this whole thing happened she was that she resign and all that you've got a first wave of information that was released did you find anything interesting under the Richard Windsor email.
I found that when they told Fox News we have nothing to hide that that position is no longer operative.
Because they using the traditional typical blacked out rectangle they blocked out the administrators name.
On the emails they're hiding from us the taxpayer -- and I'm paying for this microphone what we're paying for this government.
Actually my children are either hiding what -- they're searching I think -- -- searching even the winds -- count I stand by Chris we'll continue to -- -- side of the -- things.
Filter by section