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Former FBI officer, Bill Daly, on whether the President's proposals will help reduce gun violence
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Welcome back to on the Honda -- -- dot com live a lot of you -- -- live -- have been asking.
-- these executive -- as the president said he was signing 23 of them.
With regards to his gun control proposals they want the most sweeping measures but a lot of -- -- -- exactly what they -- -- We've put the full list off now at foxnews.com.
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Every one of the 23 easy to read.
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The White House's point of view there is always a White -- adult Gaza as well of course and there you see the White House website all right.
We're bringing former FBI office of Bill -- now a member all violent hit list.
By his views on this bill what what did you make of the president's proposals and where do we go from media -- according to -- -- well for it it really conjured up what the Second Amendment -- in -- amendment does say the right of people to bear arms.
Shall not be infringed I think definitely the key issue here is what people interpret -- being infringed right what somebody -- -- -- resisting an assault weapon away say you're pretty -- others may say.
That makes sense taking -- a piercing bullets off the street.
Was only military police should be having you know that makes sense other people make an argument.
-- -- -- -- -- -- What do you think about that proposal that's been talked about along the why should.
Why should anybody wandering around on the streets.
Have a military style assault weapon.
And effectively weapons that up bigger stronger more bullets and even lower enforcement generally -- Right and and my view is is that that they should we should be limiting those things that that.
Military people carry that would be these these heavy assault weapons and I think doesn't make sense in my personal view although not very strong Second Amendment -- advocate.
-- I think people within that space you know cover the gamut and I think here we're talking about what is infringing my concern -- they see some limitations such as here in New York.
Within just passed last evening some legislation limiting the number of of bullets in a weapon -- -- that was even more stringent sentence otherwise is a misdemeanor right that you can be be confronted with.
I think that's we start getting into this issue of we now punishing those people who are legally holding the weapons from the focus and all that -- really -- those people.
Who had been illegally we're trying to get it illegally right so you would support universal background checks and one on the support in the background checks because I think that does help us filter out some of those things that we've -- happen whether it's.
The criminal.
History and past.
We hope the mental illness that is Bob I think pointed out earlier that's a very -- -- and magnitude short even with what the president putting forward is that -- -- -- -- -- get around that.
I mean those those issues are very much you ingrained into the health.
And mental health system and to extricate those and tell people that they wouldn't be held accountable for breaking client confidentiality.
I think is gonna -- a lot of a lot of attention before you start getting that information.
Yeah to every port that would preclude someone from and then -- -- a non interest.
That the mental health reporting issues such an interest when Bob I was talking about they saw -- to be in the -- Tripoli yesterday -- -- in reference to the New York State.
Laws that Governor Cuomo signed into -- legislation yesterday.
And there was an interesting.
Quote from the Associated Press.
From a doctor apple -- who's up -- -- -- Columbia university college of physicians who said.
The than what he fears is that the very people that -- trying to get to through this exactly the ones who deliberately therefore either don't go to see that.
Therapist exact don't share their impulses and I think that there's no right or wrong on today just very difficult.
I don't think there's any.
Reason to change the rule that's been in place until now yes every once in awhile people get through but there I'm glad you brought this up Johnson -- I think this is an incredibly important point.
The New York State legislation that I I I was reading about it.
This morning says that you as a mental health professional now have an obligation to report someone who you have a reasonable cause to believe.
Is likely to do substantial damage to themselves.
Or or on the museum.
There -- the number of people who have -- with us idle thoughts is many many many many multiples of the number of people have homicidal thoughts.
Now all of a sudden what are we doing more -- if you really sick you better not see anybody about it.
Because you're gonna get reported to right that's not the right answer guys who we need those people to be -- -- coming would help help.
The -- console -- issues because if if if somebody goes in to that therapist and says.
I'm just wanna get a gun and hurt people and maybe myself suicide by -- I mean if you -- ripple that person then that.
It's a different -- -- and what we cannot and must presume this site OK it's a big big gap between cannot and must so we leave it in that we leave it to the choice of the therapist.
As many we don't know for jewel but may have happened in Aurora Colorado and.
It may have a way to brought that point -- because it just kind of something else and not to try to sites that decision -- I think is an important one but it very normally one with regard to.
You know -- and what what people may need to have to comply with what they feel as though they need to -- release and as you said what -- discourage people from getting mental health who need it.
But I think -- -- -- -- Colorado I think it ties in nicely at some other issues here we're focusing really on guns and hear what President Obama spoke about there's an issue regarding school security.
It was -- and keeping police in the street that's mom and apple pie we want you don't want police -- we want more -- security.
You know one thing -- leading out of this equation aside from the discussion on violence in movies and of the games and end.
And those type of things are out the influencing people is what about all the military style equipment people who by the fellow and -- and in Aurora.
You know had bulletproof -- he had military style gear.
When you look at adversaries who now have access to that on the Internet -- buying it to a catalog somehow I think he's still looking at some of those things because that's when -- gets an adversary.
You know as a police officer or a private citizen and some of them did -- -- home.
They have several weapons on with with multiple clips -- -- bulletproof vests on you now have seven left in your gun here New York State.
What are the chances that you may be able to.
Overtake that individual I think it decreasing and that's where I feel -- still looking the Second Amendment to about infringement I feel so we're starting to question -- water on an area.
Rubber walls right CNET tech -- magazine band makes no sense of the all it will do nothing to -- gun violence.
I'm all for the background checks and enforcing the current rules but this -- the average gun owner.
Not the criminal Matthew -- says -- -- lower abiding citizen not a felon and completely sane.
Now my government is going to tell me -- of a gun that is used in less than 1%.
-- crimes nationwide I think the point Matthew would be.
That the crimes of those type of guns I used gain pretty extraordinary.
-- time Connecticut and Aurora Colorado being just the most recent examples.
Clr 801 that says bill anyone has held a military style layoff for more than five minutes -- fifteen he's.
Referring to that.
For more than five minutes can -- -- in a matter of a couple of seconds.
A thirty round clip as opposed to -- -- -- will make no difference if someone wants to kill innocent people agree or disagree that.
I mean Edgar Padilla would agree to that -- -- -- the fact that you know we're we're looking again at the minutia of how many bullets tonight in it in -- gun.
I happen after the company area that was affected by the Colin -- shooting for those of who may remember he shot commuters on -- railroad right.
And so my neighbors were shot minister Abel was shot I missed that train by a -- couple of minutes and being probably in that car at that time and so I certainly feel.
But certainly the pain I have -- people feel the pain in the community where people are are hurt by this.
But it would probably -- this is a case where someone had multiple rounds in multiple clips this person was reloading your weapon and I think that as a as someone who's who protect themselves now has to be limited by the number of of bullets here in New York State.
To a lesser amount I get more concerned and that's something that has my ire up.
But doesn't but the episode that there's the argument that if you got less.
Bullets a new more weapon -- bullets available less magazines available tee ball.
You'll.
Going to be less able to protect yourself against somebody who's got along.
But we're talking as well -- keeping it out of the hands of those bad people who go to law as well I mean it is a double edged sword but it -- as.
Bill makes the argument that.
You really can -- this both ways.
It's surely can't mean large capacity magazine has offensive purposes than it has defense -- purposes -- -- -- Which side do you -- -- look at I mean you know I I think you know my own personal point of view would be that I would like to see these limited to a certain number because.
I you know as I look at the news and this is just anecdotal my room and you know my own feeling is I don't see it.
So very often that someone has successfully defended their home from invasion because they had a large magazine clip.
As opposed to a smaller one you but I did see pretty darn often mass killings that are being driven by a large magazine clips and people who were amateurs yes a pro military sniper -- wants to go -- Kill a bunch of people I mean you probably do with a revolver -- about him you know a bit built for the average person big magazine clip is of major advantage.
And having a Porsche shooter take catalog -- when -- -- it was a case the other.
They have again and it really haven't looked at the article that you leave it as a woman protecting your home -- -- -- crawl -- I think had a 55 rounds.
And this person still live -- hobbled off we got into car and drove away.
I mean five we'll get near that point to who's -- who's making decisions to.
How much -- need the other the other issue here and I think it is somewhat of a loophole of is that.
Then how many magazines and you have I mean if you -- -- strapped around you and use it before people can roll when we look pretty quickly they were trained and it.
You can drop that that they -- out of -- pretty spread swiftly so yeah you gonna cost advantages a couple of seconds as well there is this true effect going back to that issue -- oil railroad when when this Colin Ferguson character study shouldn't people waiting with people all the comment is when he went to -- -- he went to go back to his backpack and take out another.
I cannot do what the question is being written in from out before let you go up from JD the point.
Who I think this is a proposed I don't think this is President Obama proposal I think this is an idea that JD has.
Chaos -- hit list about requiring passports.
For gun sales.
Good idea bad idea or is it -- it does become irrelevant if you have universal bank.
That's why they've had at via background checks and again you didn't do an issue of establishing a summons credible background what is a government issued you know back document I -- I think there are some we can use we use driver's license to get an aircraft.
You know if we don't have that.
Obviously if you have some of the formal identification might be able to use a passport but yeah.
I would suggest everyone needs a passport or some government identity card for this we probably have enough government documentation and personal information be provided.
To do -- background checks.
All right build any former FBI also a member of the -- great to have you here bailed him.
