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And welcome back to spirited debate what what really drives suicide bombers what motivates them.
-- -- Langford tries to dismantle the myth that they act out of extreme devotion to a calls or ideology.
He unravels the details in his book the myth of martyrdom and Adam joins me now from Tuscaloosa Alabama thank you so much.
Thank you right.
This is very interesting kind of idea because when the -- -- Four suicide bombers is that they are driven by an ideology they're driven by their faith and devotion and so.
You know -- some level they deserve some kind of even if it's in India and intentional.
And -- as well I'll respect.
But what do you say some were that -- motivate suicide bombers why what why some detail.
We'll pretty clear and ladies summarize that nationalism.
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You see all cases that parents deserve.
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It is societal and political sense.
They're a little I had fresh and hopelessness -- -- And it -- they're this look further -- us.
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Are they religious though Howard is the religion sort of a mask for all of these other issues that depression is sort of you know death -- kinds of feelings what are they religious at all.
Well a lot of our -- -- so -- Brian and I.
Revealing the bulk.
-- prayer plus you are being villages and ultimately you rather gotten these actions and and actions.
And it you know what they're doing is not actually suicide.
And -- At a bus stop unity side that we'll be doing based on evidence bullying and other evidence uncovered it's pretty clear that.
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What are -- -- does passes.
And probably it's -- -- ease the movie pretty.
-- -- -- You -- talking about suicide bombers.
At least Islamic terrorists but you'll also talk about mass killers that are not particularly religiously you deal with them as well or just.
-- -- -- I understand.
Slow suicide terrorists but in general comments.
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People who do similar things look like just act.
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Now what does this mean though for military strategist for policy makers obviously this is not the -- that.
At least as far as I know that they've given the public do they know something different or are they making changes.
Well it's -- economy changes.
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There are a lot of people you know people workers -- -- why me why I'm thirty years misunderstand.
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As it was an ace who works is -- -- -- carried us this.
In retrospect -- never prevent we understood what was done on these headed.
-- -- -- -- This question because I'm wondering if there's ever -- turning point in their lines as it ever.
Sort of psychological profile where you can actually determine if this person is going to go down that dark path.
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Absolutely want -- risk factors that didn't you Wear.
-- and the interesting thing is I'm good friends and families of kindness they know what's gonna happen and it.
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Wow it really is thousand -- is it just seems like there's always have a telltale sign I want thank you so much a matter Langford the book is called the myth of martyrdom.
It's fascinating thank you so much for coming on and -- I -- -- a lot of people will read this including our love our people of Washington DC thank you so much.