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And -- don't wanna let Larry ward founder of gun appreciation day they do Larry thank you going on tonight.
Why do and it.
Well you know he did he start on the first -- 113 congress where and when -- -- years.
To -- her for gun control.
And Dianne Feinstein suddenly came out.
You know -- she's apparently going after not only air assault weapons but also handguns.
And the president and vice president both in guaranteed sweeping political control legislation that in the -- student we didn't have much much.
Time more -- much choice.
But I mean if we wanted to stop the -- legislation.
Well you stop letting me cut either even at a press release that says.
If the American people don't fight back now Obama -- -- the Second Amendment but he's already done to the first.
So before we I just like to start there because how your first amendment's.
Rights being compromised.
Because the broadly -- So we can look at it look at what -- the violence there in terms -- they have the freedom religious religious liberty is really really compromise.
Is in terms of these these businesses that are being forced to.
So contraceptives and then Q how.
What business deal or important businesses are being forced to sell contraceptives it's a matter of giving I wanna get too bogged -- of this this -- -- on -- document guns but.
Many states already had those rules in effect.
And I don't understand how you could tell me any rights or your rights have been compromised.
By Barack Obama in any way shape or form what right you think you don't have now that you had four years ago.
Well -- -- -- about you know having.
You know -- like get caught it Padilla into the bomb which you could that was that was what.
Would be well you're blaming -- -- -- blaming him with trampling the constitution.
And you also say.
Martin Luther King whose birthday -- comes.
Around the time of -- appreciation day which support you this is somebody took about -- a ballot nonviolence.
And died at the hands of a gun.
I'm telling you might say that it might be considered insensitive to inflate gun appreciation day with Martin Luther King Jr.
Well you know I didn't check the finish commanders view and I expect -- so federal -- there was.
They'll be my my main point was that he had that been done movement was you know that -- gun -- -- very tied to the civil rights movement.
And that and they had the you know they beat the right for every -- every race and every.
Individuals have equal rights to defend themselves.
You know who it was one of the driving forces that -- the civil rights movement -- fire.
What is -- to do -- guns.
Well I'd certainly has a lot to do.
United in our history to look back at some of the some of the -- that infringe on.
But for African Americans yet there -- -- thousand of them -- by staged by the federal government.
And you know it wasn't until.
You know the civil rights movement that they're.
You know all people you know -- -- -- -- at -- same practiced well we look at what's going on today in in new York and Chicago.
You know repeat the residents of New York did you Congo for example don't have the same right.
Don't have the same opportunity.
Two to take advantage of their right to defend themselves.
And and -- And I ally that -- people not prohibited from having guns in New York or Chicago.
People aren't taking got underway just you can have assault weapons certain places but -- -- -- you -- of them wanted to backtrack for second because.
He started took inflating the civil rights movement.
-- gun rights.
And are you aware of the fact we talk about this earlier tonight Tom -- has talked about it we talked about it with our earlier -- this evening.
Who worked with discussing.
The background of inaugurations and presidencies.
That the right to own a gun was in fact partly to preserve slavery.
That right this second -- is linked to the history of slavery there because of the militias also called slave patrols in that.
Was where the gun rights were intended by our founders who happen to be slave owners that's what my the Second Amendment.
-- -- that's a little bit -- revisionist history but but you know we we have five.
You know I have done you know I've been trying to research in this and and you know I disagree without it.
We'll disagree -- -- based on what we have slave owners who found in the country.
We had militias in place who were slave patrols and founders Patrick Henry George Mason James Madison were very clear about this.
That that's what the Second Amendment was based on and that's why it was -- That's way up to.
I think others were very clear that the that the second eleven.
Certainly purposes it's -- right it depends all different ones that self family of property.
To defend the country against foreign invasion to defend the in of the citizenry.
Against I would be -- sit down.
What do you wanna come to good appreciate an appreciation day.
Do people to embrace there AK forty sevens -- what what is that what what do you hope comes out of this.
Again I just felt that people chill out and stand you know peacefully demonstrate -- and you know send a message to Washington that.
I basically to remind politicians how we feel about our elected to -- bear arms.
You have said you think another thing you said about this in the previous interview maybe you'll once again say he didn't have the chance to fully answer the question.
Was that of slaves had guns.
Than they wouldn't be slaves anymore.
I says except for -- of the hypothetical.
And -- there's you know there's plenty of historical evidence you know not balance the result -- others but it's still that people even in the you know.
In -- in our nation's history that a period it's -- that was you know.
-- you know -- called called on every bit there's there's a lot.
-- -- history.
The last wave.
There was no way played -- had -- they and they didn't have any rights and indeed it was a slave owners.
Who ensured that they were the ones who have the guns because they're the ones who wrote the constitution.
And I and I and I said they had the right to keep them there are -- I lose -- -- at least saying as a hypothetical yes.
They have the right to bear arms.
You know perhaps they would have been in ended in a different.
In a different position to choose to fight back.
But that's absurd argument because they were.
Slaves who had no rights kept down by slave owners on plantations.
Who -- they had the guns.
I thought it might not have been a great argument but it was a hypothetical.
And the other the fact that people have the ability.
Itself is is you know could could have helped prevent the.
-- -- -- understand the sensitivity that sent people have toward having a -- appreciation day in the wake of the sandy -- shootings.
-- on Martin Luther King Day and on the day -- the day before we inaugurate for the second time our first black president.
You know and that there are people who are sensitive about that inflation of those events.
The first thing you know they did did -- was planned.
In advance Dianne feinstein's.
Legislation that was the only reason we chose -- day how we want to have enough time to announce it and -- To get the momentum going.
And we do so had a fire fight.
-- did you not take into consideration some of the other events happening around that day.
But I -- not quite frankly be what was Jean day and inauguration days on Monday.
So it's not on the same day and I did -- consideration or and -- and thank and I ordered a couple of days before.
The the you know I believe Martin Luther King Jr.
was was all about the -- in the speech and and that and that and the freedom.
I actually took about nonviolence was killed by -- gun.
I understand that but he.
You know the -- about bringing this issue for him assembly is very important which is not the issue were talking about it and I believe that you know he would he would support for in -- -- 365.
I don't know squelching your -- -- -- your -- on around Santa thing percent.
Chris in Brooklyn hello you're on -- Larry -- Analysts are we troop.
It straight now.
It is invoking the Black Panther Party owning weapons in the sixties.
When the last 46 years we've been hearing nothing but the new Black Panther Party and three guys standing or else it's.
-- I mean values he's invoking gun rights as -- -- -- that thing that was part of the civil rights program.
I've seen people on FaceBook for a formal law enforcement officers crowing about the fact that generate that -- 250000 members this week.
And are also saying how much they respect -- Malcolm X right now.
I mean we're reaching I mean these are not.
Lately what have you got what he wants it or gifts -- -- my -- is just that you'll reach to any thing.
You know this -- -- argue.
You want to respond to that -- -- about twenty -- Sure sure let me read we'll correct it's it -- My position is always been saying I believe and inequality -- believe -- and liberty and I believe those two things are BitTorrent.
And and without without without equality we can't have you -- -- and appreciate.
I learned that I thank you very much for coming on the program tonight and taken my questions thank you for being -- appreciated.
-- thanks very much Larry -- of the he's the founder of gun appreciation day.
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