Union jobs striking out?
Report: Unions losing jobs even as manufacturing recovers
- Duration 8:08
- Date Jan 19, 2013
Report: Unions losing jobs even as manufacturing recovers
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We -- the latest message from unions kids take -- -- -- it any wonder some companies are telling union workers.
To do the same.
I don't want to welcome -- Neil Cavuto went box on top of union sparking.
Debates but not exactly -- jobs.
Near city school bus driver's -- this week spanning more than a 150000 kids.
As Boeing's engineers.
Union is threatening a strike not good timing is doing as the dreamliner -- striking out.
Apparently also striking out union jobs in new report -- nonunion manufacturing.
Jobs jumping by 700000.
Between twenty tenants when -- well.
The number of union.
Factory jobs more like falling by 60000.
So it is jobs or fall of the union's latest.
Trophy -- -- adolescents.
From a desperate prospect but he had the analysts and improvement in the numbers but.
Yeah this idiotic relationship of your business into the you know.
And make large investments and things manufacturing -- -- that's a commitment that's a long term commitment.
When you don't want it to say it's gonna take me five years and make it up have a good year then the unions walk out on you have a strike shake -- down.
It then and I think that's the big problem many millions in just only care about the union.
What do you make today in the fact that we had the right to work states.
-- hiring sore right.
I think that that's evidence of the kind of growth that right to work states produce.
And a lot of this is Dave.
Of work rules that when you -- really locked in to what employees can do if you're a unionized company if not though when time.
-- very volatile times economically and so win it business begins to wane a little bit that you have greater flexibility as a business operator to.
When people wore what jobs they do if -- union -- you cannot do that so it's another reason to have.
Not -- The superstar numbers yet we should point out that some iso one in the nation are in the is in right to work states South Carolina is very high unemployment so it's not a total 11 to one correlation.
I would say this in a tough economy but the union job growth but yes I know -- that the topic but I just don't want people think just because it's a right to work state.
Very good one -- at York -- it's I'm telling you it is not.
And for a guy that's been at a couple of protest strikes my dad was a union guy I have to say that I'm I'm a big supporter of unions particularly private sector unions not public sector unions -- point.
On the message of just what we it has -- to -- -- and there's a non non.
Factory jobs growing right.
And union factory jobs -- in a tough economy those jobs pay more than the three -- and how you get when -- nonunion worker and and those jobs get cut first.
Adam what do you got to.
Well I don't think it's any shocker first of all of that event as we've already been saying that there's been a -- I mean -- been going on for a long time.
-- we get at some point we'll go -- put up work and we'll stick a fork and in the unions because.
Clearly they are dwindling.
Having said that it's also no shock that these orbit these organizations are gonna act in their self interest I mean.
We can do a whole -- on other segments of the economy that act in their self interest over and over and over congress Wall Street I don't know television broadcasters.
That we shouldn't expect anything other than the unions to -- to try to get the best deal for their employees and as -- -- They're not doing that let's get to -- that OK and I don't know where you took this conversation but they're not doing.
And then did you -- get a net decline in jobs then well you don't have to.
It's not to say that they're not that they're not getting results by the way they're not getting enough results -- they're not getting the best results.
8000 -- -- 60000 fewer jobs -- 700000.
More nonunion factory jobs -- to your.
-- smaller piece of the pie but you know tell the union employees.
Who have better contract as a result of the negotiations that their leadership -- done that.
You know they shouldn't try so hard hearted and I think the data says that did -- -- that -- -- they are getting results but they're they're terrible results and that's great -- What are these terrible pay packages in other words is -- to be -- -- Charlie's point that the job Dave Gainer cheaper -- I think it was I think it was Camden, New Jersey last year they had the opportunity to unions did.
To create the packets with the city that would have allowed more rookie cops but it's that they protected the pay of the senior -- -- the public sector you go to public certainly be a little your point but so -- are not what my point as those that.
You know and if these -- aren't Smart enough.
To understand that sometimes it takes a little bit of sacrifice up.
That was -- -- get -- -- that there and that's usually tells though by striking it and you basically have the entire population New York City say hey thanks -- -- in our kids.
And with the school but the driver strike also look at hostess.
Who would hostess out of business right is being liquidated now.
It was an -- -- you know what do you -- Yeah a lot of yeah generalities -- you know -- the governor stupid yeah.
That's what else that is good that is that is do you think it they're serving their PR well when when they do strike in the city -- -- 50000.
You know handicapped kids eat you know -- wanting for a ride at L or when Nate Nate Nate big threaten a strike in the middle of the dreamliner nightmare.
They seemed tone deaf at the very least in that regard the right target yeah.
-- and by the way they all operate independently it's not I don't think there's just one person at the top of the public the private sector union scale saying okay.
Don't do this I mean these are independent unions and they do what they feels -- his self interest that I -- -- they're -- and I think I think I think the NRA shut themselves that they do you do borrow from.
It's a ridiculous metaphor with some of its tactics recently on what you know this and these are independent unions and they feel like they have to do this to protect the -- -- you think it's tone deaf with you know the the very folks are trying to reach out and say we justifiably need this in the year this is about justice and they're doing is they're hurting their cause on that.
What else -- they have.
Yeah -- -- -- what else today that.
I'll tell that that's been my point I mean they're they're fighting for -- dwindling share here so but the alternative like it to get everybody off -- Now let me and by the way trail Charles said that they need to make sacrifices unions have made sacrifices over and over you look at the concessions.
They've made in the auto industry for example they've made concessions they've worked there and I -- I don't -- know what.
-- doing pretty well out of they make concessions after it's too late in other words they didn't make the concessions -- that thing was falling apart.
After all we'll have come up and take a -- Actually -- -- the -- that is a perfect example the auto industry of the private sector union overstepping.
And destroying a business and you know it wasn't for the largest of government.
You know they would -- to give back a lot -- that -- went to prepackaged -- you know again it's it's a lot -- -- disputed there there's no one cause of the demise of any of these companies or industries that you know the American auto industry did not decline solely because of the -- huge for that but usually -- -- -- it's huge reason.
And having the hostesses problem that he's -- part of that was bugging out.
Put it this way the PR by some of these union like this school bus driver strike has been so bad they should be asking Lance Armstrong for -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Here's a point you know let's compare that to just say I have felt that he -- our VI NRA IRA which is.
You know attacking President Obama for you know for for having guards around his -- is that worse than what they're doing actually fighting for wage.
He just kind of car did.
You see that and doesn't care if it -- that's good friends that I -- -- -- part and I want to take a look at it.