Should the FBI know more about Benghazi investigation?
Mike Baker, Bill Daly and Tom Ruskin on why the FBI has yet to answer key questions on Libya attack
- Duration 11:24
- Date Jan 23, 2013
Mike Baker, Bill Daly and Tom Ruskin on why the FBI has yet to answer key questions on Libya attack
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He hello let's build their parents get the same kind of rusty good to see here that wasn't quite a welcome point.
-- lovely to have you both here.
I guess you both watched.
Second of state Clinton today a little.
-- the average the report appearing this morning Tom's case.
-- keeping very quiet that home I have not seen her on today on -- teams it was interesting Mike Baker is also with us via Skype by the way.
-- -- he was watching diligently.
He looks a reason I'm good news is -- -- diligently diligently be all right good to see you -- -- but let me start with the elements so we knew Tom.
-- are gonna say Clinton says she accepts responsibility.
She says we still don't know only ounces to exactly what happened.
That would seem to be fact Coleman in these kind of chaotic situations.
-- although we -- now what for months on do you think we should have.
Morons is we do I do from a security I think I think we do have more users -- the secretary may have I'm sure that the FBI and the people conducting the investigation.
Know pretty well what's happened.
A lot of people -- testified from the congress the -- -- the regional security officers.
For the missions testified that they -- for additional security that they weren't given that additional security.
How hide those requests went up in the state deployment.
Well what secretary Clinton's going to be able to reveal.
To -- Cendant as wells the house.
Panels for -- said good point at home gets to that felt that this is not a message that that all of the youngsters are not going to come from the State Department.
It's an FBI investigation.
Think it is right in and patchy -- Tom's point unfortunately FBI doesn't know everything that's happened in fact just last week.
The the -- FB IMR -- went over to to Tripoli to try to find out what's happening from the Libyan side because they -- have to rely a lot on.
The Libyan authorities have in the intelligence and other people to gather information for them we've also seen where.
We're one of the suspected terrorists who was involved in this incident which was being held by another government.
And we've not had access to that individuals and -- number -- parts here and we've not had the full cooperation war I would say perhaps not have the full.
The full force of the US government behind this initiative meeting.
And at the FBI but we kind of State Department we're trying to free up access access.
Two individuals who may have information so.
I'll look concern that this investigation is lagging not because of the commitment I would suggest by the FBI not being defensive -- this I have to work for the right but I would say because of other other issues that are now giving him access to the information they need.
Remarkable what's your view on the way information has been made available here publicly I is -- just a question of the fact that we need to happen.
Some secrets in this sort of investigation in this evening in all security -- these kind of places.
Or do you believe that -- genuine stonewalling here.
Well I well I think.
There's there's been a variety of obliterate -- don't want from the outset in terms of of the narrative that the White House put out.
Hey I'm not really overly concerned about the investigation and we knew what the problem was few hours after the attack -- we knew.
But the problem was leading up to the attack -- I spend most of my adult life in -- Costello John.
Spent a great deal of time trying to figure out how to Harden.
Our facilities and protect people that -- and when we are -- and operations in places like this.
Is our mysteries of the investigation kind of puzzles me but.
I'm not sure why not spending more time talking about would I consider the real failure they got C which is.
-- why hasn't the president you know stood in front of the American public and explain why he failed to at least try.
To respond the only response on the ground was a global response guys that we -- -- agency -- In place in their only job in it that situation is trying to hold all ourselves until the calvary arrives at president's failed to -- -- calvary to at least.
Try and that's the point.
That I think -- to get you don't.
Put out there over and over again I'd like to know who was in the White House situation room the night of the incident.
I'd like to know from the military chain of command in this specific request for authorization to respond and I like to know that authorization was denied.
No right to the present explain why.
-- -- -- To try at least to save lives put some planes -- -- -- F sixteens nearby you know put it put put some some boots on the ground sooner than we have them.
And if nothing else she would have secured debt facility.
And and prevented the go through that ensued afterwards and is now -- this investigation.
Yeah -- -- -- on this negative response to Mike's my point and I agree Mike that the issue there have to be around what happened at that time and what was the lack of response by the government.
I would probably say they -- -- about investigation.
It can really -- is.
What happened that time of the incident is that this continue to kind of electronic engineers to be lackluster than the president did get out from the American public and said we will bring these people justice.
And by appearance sake and reading kind of tea leaves of what happened with with -- -- going over to the deal last week.
Is that -- not getting further we're not following up with these people responsible now nor did we do anything at that time -- and I think -- -- -- Senator McCain said.
-- in in having attended the hearing today he said.
We're still missing the information we still not getting what we need.
I don't know from a security standpoint what we're gonna do in the future current.
What I mean to Mike's point and to bill's point what are we gonna do if an incident like that happens today if -- embassy or compound starts getting overrun.
Who's going to approve the troops to go over -- we know pride within an hour now and a half.
As Mike said the CIA operatives there are put there to hold -- off the insurgency what are we gonna do next.
To potentially save an ambassador war are people in a compound in the future and who's -- -- approve it and what method of operation or what.
SO PC and operating procedure they're gonna put in a place to stop this from.
-- have been enlightened person for life.
-- why I brought out a way that JD.
-- and Judy Miller Alia that the ambassador himself.
May have had a significant say -- how much security he took -- him.
To Ben Ghazi you know better than most have these things work.
What do you had a proposal saying saying I want three guys -- two guys or I'd prefer to have ten guys coming with.
-- I could have been an opportunity request.
And you know if you -- that he is security was it was over the top he -- pushed back.
That's not his call his job is not to be the one responsible for assessing risk on the ground -- to his well being and and others he could have made -- request but.
In the only person going back didn't it don't Tom's points in person that they can authorize cross border operations only person who -- said.
You don't send a sense of planes up in the air you know within.
Within thirty minute the attack being -- Who is the president he's the only one who can do -- I'd I'd like to hear a little bit more than we have a and is this duck and dodge.
Routine has been going on ever since this this thing started.
So it's it's very disappointing -- I think the bar was set very low frankly.
For Hillary Clinton's appearance today I don't think -- met the bar but I don't think anybody was anticipating.
Information transparency as a result in -- -- her attitude as was rather bizarre kind of sneak -- And she seemed overly sensitive when -- members of the committees were asking very legitimate questions.
All right but just a bunch of our viewers weighing in the Susan.
Of what happened in order to give the public -- -- -- to what really happened in May Ghazi.
Then why did -- -- Susan Rice to go on TV and give a definitive.
Also as to why the attack happened while I was in the state prominent well I've Susan Rice to go on TV as you -- Consecutive state say that was not decision Texas home school mom says -- dedicated people make mistakes.
Dedication is not the question the question is competency Secretary Clinton failed in this administration has not found those responsible.
Seems to be holding back the truth that is the issue is that -- point.
They did to Mike Mike's is saying he was him all from the president.
If it's not the -- states.
Role he she's not responsible directly for that security around that around -- consulate she's not -- she directly for the response when -- ordered them.
Well I mean as he has responsibility needed Iranian State Department diplomatic security to make sure that the ambassadors representing the government our secure thrift and the premises are secure factor.
Are very elaborate.
Security protocols and standards have been developed by the State Department since that bombing going back to.
Be -- and another member of other major instance of -- -- -- she brought up today so who I mean I think you know -- the particles are there.
I think in this case to Mike's point is and I would like to know as well as Mike and equipment either by.
This what was -- on that situation who was there who knew what.
And what decisions -- -- not me because that's really was the hub a Twitter feed was coming into the for that decision making for that to the president was who say.
Let's deploys some some troops -- -- let's do something right away so that's trillion with a question you know lies I think on this State Department side is that they may have been aware what's happening.
May be on the on the periphery.
But they weren't there in the situation room and getting his feet from the drone -- are getting feed from on the ground and there's reports with the -- responds that's -- question.
Along those lines I -- begin.
What are we setting up for the future.
What are we looking for a why wasn't the security approved for.
Ahead of time -- that does go to Hillary Clinton I mean basically she is the deciding factor relative to the security forces within the State Department.
So why was not approved and what's being done to make sure that -- another ambassador comes forward.
And says I feel that my life and American slaves or in danger in this compound what are we gonna do in the future and what's -- -- actually have signed off power on that.
-- -- wrap it up for us your thoughts.
Well I think you know services tough talk after -- accountability review board -- pentagon are all we know that didn't happen for -- senior level State Department personnel were essentially reassigned they talk about one resigning but -- -- did was give up his political women he still there.
So that nothing happened from that.
We know that you know months and months and months and months later after the incident we get the secretary of state it's her -- her responsibility.
To talk about the protection of those people so she didn't do that today I think it was -- a failure on her part to address the questions.
And then we've got the bigger question I gotta keep going back to the same thing.
We're the people who are supposed to try and we don't leave people behind.
And the president failed to at least.
Make the effort and we have assets that you could look up in the air to try -- -- -- -- -- to save lives.
Wouldn't want to try were supposed to do that he didn't -- the calorie.
That's the failure of -- Gaza are I might take a former CIA operative diligently doing his homework and watching the hearings as president of diligence LLC didn't seem like.
I mean thanks -- liquidity had Tom Ruskin former NYPD detective.
Under president of the CMP group.
I'm bill Daley former FBI also good to see you'll -- you guys and I know.