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    Do we have a clearer idea what happened on September 11th?

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We get into the discussion we were just talking about one of the most explosive moments all of wall was.

And in many places a sort of pat on the back thank you senators say he is -- kind of -- there were a couple of exchanges senator Rand Paul went up to the secretive state.

As did pry him senate are wrong Johnson listened to the exchange now went seven was -- -- say Clinton used that phrase what difference does it make.

We don't misled the -- falsely protest meant something spraying out of that and salt spring out of that.

And that was easily the two but al-Qaeda that was not the fat but -- the American people could've known that within days and ending.

They didn't know with all due respect the fact is we have four dead Americans was al-Qaeda -- protest it was a because of guys out for a walk when I decide they don't kill some Americans.

What difference at this point does it make it is our job.

To figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again senator.

That -- is an interesting moment that -- your attention all over off FaceBook page.

-- all -- our -- Twitter feed and all over the live chat -- keep those comments coming.

We'll get to as many of them as we -- but let some get some college papers.

From a panel -- -- I see you rolling your eyes -- that.

I had a choice of words.

Well you know it reminded me very not -- of the senior administration official in the last administration.

Both analysts -- President Bush and Dick Cheney.

Basically gave the same answer to a question about W and and the and -- that answer was so.

You know so what.

And that's what Hillary tried to do.

Today it didn't work then it's not working now it makes all the difference in the world how it happened.

Why it happened and what the administration chose to say about it -- to say it doesn't matter now because they're dead.

Means happy efforts by the congress to find out what happened to stop stonewalling from the administration.

I continue and.

So I -- -- calling -- that yeah I think it matters a great deal I disagree with Secretary Clinton I think the American public have the right to know what happened.

In a timely manner just like senator Johnson was asking.

I don't accept your argument that it doesn't matter now because their dad I just think she's trying to deflect criticism because she wants to probably run for president when -- sixteen.

She wants to get this behind her I think she basically felt he had to have a tough response yeah.

Penny what was your view of that how -- those woods that you would have advised city using it for a percentage -- committee here.

What -- -- -- -- two different things in it she said it you know what does it matter now and I was actually I think in direct response the line question that Ron Johnson was dealing and that he was questioned whether or not -- appearance.

What Susan Rice.

And you know should she have gone out there when she did in and given you know the fact that it -- the video that -- the uprising.

So that was a line of question that was I think her first emotional response that -- wind right after it -- she says.

You know what does it matter now which was meeting a little bit unfortunate -- what and -- we need to get to the bottom of this we need to find out what happened and we need to bring justice and -- to bring these people -- and deliver justice to themselves.

She was almost saying two things and it unfortunately that one phrase that's what's going to be highlighted in that very next sentence she says we need to understand what happened -- -- -- report.

-- isn't that a reasonable argument that yes.

This appalling.

Tragedy happened.

But focusing on that -- science.

Reason for -- happening at that precise time is less important now than going out that.

Getting the bad guys is that is that not a reason why -- not.

It's it's a reasonable argument but how do you.

Evaluate the proposals that have been made for improving security installations all over the world if you don't know.

How that happens I mean we must understand what happened in Ben -- because it's critical to evaluating.

The independent review panel's recommendations.

Mean -- Hillary Clinton today said.

-- it's wonderful you know we are implementing 64 of those recommendations.

By march were well on track to doing -- -- that.

We need to know whether or not they are truly responsive to the nature of the security problem.

That she acknowledged -- another thing that struck me is really interesting about her testimony.

Was at one point she was saying two contradictory things she was saying yes how core al-Qaeda has been decimated.

But she did not support the second part of the administration's line.

Which is.

In the nation's war is -- -- we are diminishing our presence because she said and I quote.

We're in this rural -- for a long term struggle here so she was kind of backing away from the notion that okay we're done with the terrorists -- challenging.

Let's move on she acknowledges that this is a huge challenge.

Which is interesting and if she -- it struck me that when I was watching this that.

Had we seen this three months ago prior to.

Early November.

It would have -- -- -- -- the president Obama's election.

Seeing that help in January 2013 JD now a lot of this was payback and I am funny 161 event -- I think so you know I wish governor Romney would have the -- -- -- and blessings these senators that.

For Secretary Clinton he might be the president right now I think that that governor Romney had a great opportunity.

For really what's the scandalous thing in this administration.

A lot of people say it's worse than Watergate -- -- fast and -- we have for American -- with the ambassador.

But yet I think that Obama was able to get off the -- they sort of just because the way.

-- he played it that Candy Crowley didn't do much favorite for governor Romney at one of the presidential debates.

But you know one thing I think it's very -- and I wish we hear more about it from his some of the Democrats -- Secretary Clinton for her role how many countries she visited do you remember when she got the other white football helmet and -- Jersey Clinton went well for her staff -- -- back and that illness.

Once you all represented the number of countries she's visiting and I -- that's important I was in the navy over to ten years I've been over -- hundred countries I think that's great however.

I'm not in charge of making sure that all our diplomatic posts are secure around the world and I think she had a misplaced set of priorities.

She's trying to be the best secretary of state ever meanwhile she -- -- her primary duties which -- to keep our.

Embassy say instead wasn't need these meetings in places like Honda and so I think that she hadn't missed -- -- of.

Perhaps -- -- it's it's interesting all of this talk of backed secretary of state Clinton as a great secretary of state tell the travel she's done.

And get me Dana Perino said to me yesterday -- bumped into in the makeup room and she's it.

Can you name any country or region that he's better off as a result of Hillary Clinton's time as secretary of state.

And -- -- it's not an easy question -- -- And we're not an easy times.

We don't I don't know what all the -- -- the conversations in which she had.

I don't know the personal relationships in which she was able to you -- on -- lean on to be able to change dialogue to be able to change the people that -- It actually -- -- people.

Sometimes there was fractions and she has a long history and has served his country -- -- And as far as you know she's only doing the testimony today because she's looking for -- -- sixteen.

That is as crass and unfounded as anything I ever heard.

This woman has spent her life -- the last four years dedicated to make sure that the 70000 people that's you know that serve.

Under her.

Are dealing with it had to be protected she understands that there were mistakes that happen and she wants to get to the -- that the notion.

Now on this one line that she say you know what does it matter now me that she's just going to dismiss the investigation she wants to get to the bottom -- she wants to understand.

Because she wants to ensure that the safety of all the diplomats that are out there brilliantly serving.

You are protected -- so I just you know I I know it's fun to be -- yelling and kind of say these things you know off off off off on and just kind of -- -- -- -- but.

I had to say knowing her and maybe I'm just may be what little bit more emotion having known her for as long as I have in knowing the dedication and which he has done.

It it's just she truly does she use all the emotion in her own testimony.

You saw that -- a point with a two -- calls and what she had to make this was deeply personal to her and he doesn't want to get the bottom of it.

Yeah I I think had nobody would argue that she was very personally affected.

By Jason we thank you for that passionate and well informed.

Defense all any problem.

I'm not defending in any way shape -- form Judy.

Was senator around poll who said you accept responsibility and -- -- -- it being President Obama I would have five.

Yes that was that's pretty enormous senatorial old club like thing to say pretty straightforward.

But not surprising.

From that channel than -- we have heard this kind of thing from him before and I think that.

Most of the people on the panel.

Did not respond that way to her mean if she is in addition to being at very able able secretary of state.

She is a consummate politician.

And I was just fascinated watching her.

Back away from everything that -- tarred her involvement in this affair if you look at what she said.

And what she didn't -- after the effect she was nowhere to be seen and today she was talking about all the positive things that they've been doing.

She was talking about.

736.

Million dollars worth of improvements and upgrades that aren't going to happen if the money is sequestered he has where you know we're moving towards that she was.

Moving forward and she is good enough and shrewd enough.

To both start with tears and usually these senate hearings and didn't -- and she started -- it and then move to work very combative stance when she was challenged when her integrity was challenged.

It was an extraordinary performance and I'm really looking forward to this afternoon.

Yet it then that's a good point we should remind our viewers the -- -- another committee hearing.

Coming up second -- say Clinton moves to the how.

How side of Capitol Hill for the -- for a hit another hearing this afternoon and given the history.

Members in the house is Judy rightly says that may well be even more complicated -- we saw this morning.

A couple of our viewers weighing in as well I want to keep the comments coming in hopeful says for Rand Paul to attack -- the way he did was on cold full when he made the comment about 9/11.

And the topic now at hand his common -- accountability shows me that she is a remarkable woman.

Just to woods says I'd like send my condolences to the families of the brave men who didn't make it -- home.

From -- -- god bless you Pawlenty Harry says are strollers what is the government going to do they'll dump more money into those countries that hate us and want to -- us.

Let's stop sending money to all these countries and take care -- our -- That's a point that is brought up a law JD.

And it it's it gets to the half of this.

The balance of but how much we engage.

Have those who would do us -- We engage those who would protect our -- countries where we have enemies all whether we withdraw and just say okay you're -- on your own it it's a really.

Big eternal question.

It sure is you know I think this administration really had a lion -- in the way they approach the -- spring.

They were awfully behind -- so called democracy movements throughout the Middle East and now that we have the Muslim Brotherhood leading Egypt.

We have islamists in considerable positions of power.

In places like Tunisia Libya Yemen is not working out well course now in Algeria we had this up hostage crisis -- Americans died in that.

We have Molly being taken over by al-Qaeda and not at the French weren't there it probably would be taken -- al-Qaeda and it's delicate balance and I think part of the bank holding Gaza attack was part of -- -- take.

What was ambassador doing -- -- -- when he knew that it was not defensible on 9/11.

Apparently meeting with a Turkish diplomat with a Skelton.

Security group why is that and I wish us Secretary Clinton would address some of those things as well okay.

-- -- have got to get lost coming from -- -- to let you go in DC.

I guess of the flip side of the argument all being made by some is that nothing nowhere no region of the of the world is better all.

Is that we don't know how bad it might be had a second Clinton sectors say Clinton.

And President Obama not -- the policies they happens you've got just your view as we -- Jim spit really say goodbye to the secular state.

All of the last four years in diplomacy.

In thirty seconds of -- I think we have we have great challenges that are out there and -- our country is currently -- and that threat is constantly evolving and and to Judy's point.

That's why she backed away from the administration -- saying that there are still threats she knows the danger that that the world still continues to be at.

And these threats now with the technology and ability to be so mobile.

You know the kind -- can pop up in in in ways that we just didn't even know about you know it's a different way of fighting with a different way in which we have to engage and so.

You know that's they did it to the Secretary Clinton and I hope you know they confirmed secretary actors Senator Kerry quickly he has a lot on his hands.

That's special penny -- Former senior advisor to senator Harry Reid thanks so much good to see it was always penny thanks all right.

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