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These -- 9 AM out west and -- way out on the hunt haired foxnews.com live hello everybody.
I'm Jonathan hundreds Jim and -- fry today.
The best day of anybody weak and and the best thirty minute special tutoring his -- -- and then again good to see you both.
Yeah what a busy day I just think that -- in the headlines hit.
Song by the way just -- -- apple as the world's most valuable.
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Also that you we have a new White House chief -- stop finance today by President Obama Denis McDonough who laws Julie.
He was you just told me it national security book deputies had had a deputy national security advisor.
And that Casey Anthony.
Remember her acquitted.
On the charges of murdering a daughter will now an appeals -- to set aside.
Two of the conviction she actually had against -- lying to detectives.
That just breaking as we came in.
And big news from the Pentagon.
The Defense Department says it isn't going to lay off or -- all not extend the contracts of some 46000.
Temporary workers.
As it tries to cut costs ahead -- -- looming budget cuts let's -- with that with the panel.
Jim this this is it pretty serious what's going on the with the Defense Department I mean that -- -- making all of these trimmings already they need to get.
-- -- Well I don't what I say today I mean you just -- relatively small fraction of the Pentagon budget.
Right I think -- I'll -- The big place and there's been it.
I mean we spend more money than all rest of the country's -- put together.
Many Republicans have come around the view that the sequestered and do whatever is necessary here -- very -- spending.
You're -- -- including the Pentagon -- -- we build a military to fight two wars and now we don't have to worse and we have a different kind of war to be sure it won't longer term and we -- -- present China.
Which aren't necessarily solve by having big army.
Studying Arabic -- -- I guess -- it would be hard to argue that there is not.
Back to that couldn't be cops -- idea -- a shock of their people arguing it because apparently everything else ceased to be cut but the Pentagon budgets of sacrosanct it can cut it over not to conscience right I mean you have to cut.
If you're serious -- deficit reduction.
Have to look at the -- -- be -- and and consistent thing about this is a very small part of the problem here is this clusters make things so.
Unclear to people were planning long term and the Pentagon like other agencies to plan long term that I know people in the military we're saying they just you know they can even try.
So -- -- officers can try their cases.
Because they don't know -- to have the budget for witnesses and whatever else the right plan ahead and you know something that that ridiculously small is something they -- plan that's right I guess.
Given to you this one of them difficulties wind defense cuts is -- that you you don't go back Medicare or Social Security.
There's not necessarily other than other than not constituents sentiment there's not a there's not senator or representative.
Who has money on the lying there.
It took -- his constituency -- -- in the defense says so much personal.
I get this contract in my district.
Her place until there's an umbrella over this way and every every every member of congress has had him X number of nursing homes and theater district I mean I do agree that had them that the defense constituencies have done a better job growth -- making noise about their sequestered.
By far.
Then civilians.
-- sequestration victims if you will.
But the vote the votes you know that look this -- -- sooners put.
This incident people -- -- -- we're gonna get colas or whatever it is for the supports the vets civilians I don't think there's an enormous push back against that two I think.
The real loser in this -- -- be defensive but apparently be deficit reduction at all.
I don't think you're gonna see much because I think in the end it's that this.
The defense the defense sequestration will be canceled or -- -- not happen and in the civilian wants to -- -- to continue spending.
Well you have these polls coming -- the journey.
-- people including Republicans really oppose cuts to Medicare when -- for starting with that premise.
And then starting the premise that a lot of these faces -- military bases or southern states where your other senators were the biggest agitators against -- -- budget reduction.
But they're not gonna wanna touch their people on their districts that's going to be a problem -- -- point writes in saying we can cut the army but they gusting at the navy we need a good -- navy.
Even Teddy Roosevelt knew that although I guess that was a -- black guys have been there and -- -- -- Do you think that -- in times of budget pressure and -- the it is if at least pressure.
It does require -- I think that.
The idea that we're gonna take on China with infantry is sort of an illusion that we do need a native and I didn't -- that you -- cruise missiles and I mean.
When you're reading that that that North Korea can now fire rocket -- is potentially gonna -- built rocket with a nuclear weapon this could hit Hawaii and probably within.
A year to have their evolution you know rest of the country -- in nine states as well.
-- the need for a massive investment on missile defense and at that comes at that the defense of some other part of the military and military bands or for that matter you know division to the army.
We better start thinking that way we did in the other cliche is generals always fight the last war in the last war was.
Handing out obstacles to two Afghans -- and it didn't work out too well and now let's look ahead of the next more which is the profit to China or North Korea.
Some nuclear kind of attackers cyber warfare aside and there's a big part of that it is indeed a lot of guardians on the way.
You're raising a larger issue which as you know you you think it's it's Asia and other people think it may be the Maghreb you know -- African.
-- you know Libya and that can't Molly got Algeria mean you know they're killing our citizens.
We don't even know.
-- -- the -- -- -- we can only I think we're back I'm back when I was sort of settings and that's what we always -- we can fight two wars concurrently.
Coming worsen things out through the three I mean.
The Dresser that's this is not the cold war -- -- -- difference though between a war where American workers and oil fill now hearing her name visits which is real which is a -- a warm kind and -- more where they.
Got to get guys to -- your entire country -- -- well.
-- -- interested me yet assuming that al-Qaeda doesn't move as we suspect it has from.
Afghanistan now to -- and right for their.
-- there's also a big difference between fighting those groups of those kind of militants.
And there is between sending thousands upon thousands of troops on the -- as hesitant to.
Your your colleague your country -- the duke of Wellington said her for a great power there's no such thing as a small war.
The French are just discovering now in his right big article in the air time today and -- a -- as well about well by the way.
You know that that are on the president of France so no problem that's the Islamic militants -- with -- as we've got Obama -- that's actually not the case and I and nobody knows -- world who in the country.
And also -- the Q word quagmire -- to emerge.
In my which argues doesn't argue protect you know hit it simply says drones and whatever technology -- -- much better.
Then -- trying to teach American soldiers how to speak.
The irony languages and Molly and charity the French and essentially get on down northern Africa -- ironic is just trying to get by -- -- this is this is -- Vietnam and Algeria was in the sixties and so for them I just.
-- or became ours but he.
You know Algeria was to prompt them that it's ironic now -- return -- I don't know if did did just a -- not a subject as well.
A lot of movement this week we'll know -- -- forward movement but a lot of public pronouncements.
From senate Feinstein Vice President Biden on gun control.
I've put it seemed at and it did a lot of talk specifically about the assault weapons ban.
But Julie it seems that that is something that is not going anywhere politically speaking -- so -- why the focus on well ice.
The old pioneer subtle perhaps the they're -- assault -- fans in the past unfortunately my view.
But.
If you only if you start negotiating.
-- things that you only think in past thing and it's negotiate down matching the right learned to ask for everything in a subtle perhaps.
You agree this is graduated to two absolutes Feinstein on the one hand in area and the other guy I think there's a compromise on background -- -- is -- budget and I also agree that -- -- assault weapons ban on my past.
Sell off drove off to all of this -- We end up with the -- with one -- significant measure on -- -- Maybe cartridge and limiting the size of cartridges and much -- accomplished but that's something I think the White House is making that for you.
From my perspective then and -- the -- but.
It's a disgrace after everything that we're dealing.
After everything that's happened -- not -- get much further on this me but it's it's really at this point.
Our leadership in Washington about that kid.
You know I have phentermine and wrote -- -- for it's another network's website which you talked about.
This is African in the start injecting the -- Smartphones into the into the equation.
Guns don't fire certain places guns are hackable certain places that is sort of compromise between you know -- banning -- guns and then and not -- announced.
-- -- but I mean that that would take.
Tell -- headcount decades to make a difference right and then there are 300 million -- not as we're not making much predators on the -- -- my weapons and hour and everything is doing less for it and I I think that it is that's why I think the background -- is a good idea in the in the world of apps and so -- he really couldn't -- -- used to being a long complicated process to do background -- rally in east could in theory the theory could be just an instant.
22 later -- and a decision and and -- where we're headed who's threatened me manage the big -- did this better awareness.
A couple of viewers weighing in on this on the on them on the mental illness side of this settle -- and takes Indians the -- -- Mental illness problem I know this is -- but it's not it no excuse for not doing the work.
I Carol labs has put people in the state -- -- instead of president's conduct kind of government committee -- -- seatbelts but not take our meant something is wrong.
Well but if you are mentally ill you can walk out of your seat mental home if you have a and right now purchase a weapon and not have any kind of background check -- so long it.
-- you -- -- -- in this world to big data if you're mentally ill and was there will look who.
You may remember that hold the institutional opposition movement of the last half century as it.
Synergy between.
True conservative budget cutters and liberal civil libertarian types who wanted to rumored to be free to be homeless and you know.
-- streets and so on and some solution could come where we monitor whether you're taking pills and I we monitor where you are I mean I -- look at the zone of privacy because it's -- but look what do that lands you know that the guy's got a -- Connecticut.
Do you take -- -- assault weapons so he can't get -- you somehow disable his ability to have one.
-- -- -- -- -- Political question.
That out of the futility of sound like futility of our current situation on guns somebody might be coming up some new approach.
Well except for the fact that for every one atom Lanza who apparently -- and seeing what was mentally ill there when he people who -- that you have no indication -- mentally -- most people go get -- assault weapons in the red.
It's not that many people snapping with a solid there's there's enough well when there's a -- get Jared Loughner the guy who who do with the -- not with the assault weapon and been worth remembering.
No piece of gun control legislation I'm aware of this with a need.
-- do it.
Would stop Jared Loughner from showing up -- a shopping center with a with a I.
A pistol to attempted to kill -- got -- people and -- -- -- -- he was clearly bonkers long ago you've been supported by everybody and again.
ACLU Russia has -- American Civil Liberties Union laws -- protect people -- dead in their right to be crazy and potentially guilty.
