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Has certainly been a big week in the gun debate with President Obama laying out a series of far reaching proposals all design and to reduce gun violence -- it actually work a Fox News poll finds that Americans are deeply skeptical Davis.
A scant 22%.
Say tougher laws can help stop acts like the -- -- -- in Newtown.
Say no way people will still find ways to commit unspeakable crimes.
Time for a fair and balanced division.
-- Joseph some Maha joins us now with the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence John Lott as witnessed author of more guns less crime gentlemen thanks.
Omar let's begin with you I mean you saw about a huge majority of Americans 71% -- tougher laws will not.
Stop the tragedies like Newtown.
But they do you think.
Just the opposite more guns in the hands of law abiding citizens would actually work take a look at this -- -- -- up on the screen is Fox News -- Nearly twice as many people.
Think there would be less violent crime if more people -- guns than if guns were banned so Omar it is the president going out.
This the wrong way.
Not at all the president's going at this the exact right way he has a comprehensive approach and he's focusing on background checks.
We're not saying we can prevent every single murder from occurring in this country but there's a lot we can do and there's a lot we're not doing.
When my sister was killed at Virginia Tech on April 16.
We learned that the -- past -- background -- when he should never have he was a prohibited purchaser and his name was not in the background check database.
If it was he would have prevented.
He would have been prevented if you're buying those gun and -- -- now we have 40%.
Of all gun sales in this country are completely -- -- I brought in what the president is proposing.
It's a close that loop hole and that's a great first got here and and people like that idea John because I get a lot of support even from -- -- John let me come here there's another Fox News poll put up on -- screen found enormous group support for what -- -- other way to reduce gun violence -- -- about universal -- Helping mentally ill who were violated force the existing gun laws.
Mental health -- I mean look are these.
Measures reasonable would they make a difference.
It I don't think they would -- a lot of numbers or just given our are simply wrong that 40%.
What -- their cousins and beat the didn't present our polling of the sentiment of American -- I'm not not saying your polls are wrong I'm saying the numbers that -- just given out about the background checks were wrong so.
For example that 40% Clinton at 40% of sales don't go through background check is simply wrong.
This is always thought they do NIC goes on our.
Listeners at a time okay so John Bennett style -- -- Debt is from a survey done in 9394.
By the Clinton administration.
If you actually look at the numbers almost all that 40%.
-- inheritance is within families.
Or gifts within families if you remove.
In -- -- and gifts within families they brought it down to near 10%.
And there are other biases in the survey there too but.
And really get -- right.
-- -- Marcus sales ridiculous you know it might Israel that are Omar it works better if I ask the questions in you can answer them -- -- The most like to respond to that if -- if I tend to respond to my questions if you would please the most crime infested cities.
Have the most restrictive gun law also give the example Chicago the toughest gun laws in America.
But they've done almost nothing to deter the rampant gun violence there.
Doesn't that negate the argument for greater gun control it it doesn't negate the argument at all and let me tell you why a year after I experienced what.
The private sale or gun show loophole whatever you wanna call it I experience that I bought ten guns and one hour at a Richmond gun show completely unchecked.
We are allowing dangerous individuals to exploit loopholes in states that have weak gun laws and they are finding their way into the city on the secondary market.
-- through private sales on the streets too dangerous individuals if we want to curb gun violence we have to have a federal law -- make sure all states are closing this pride itself or gun show loophole if you do that I think you'll see a difference in these.
In the -- -- you see these high crime high current race.
Why there's a lot of academic studies have been done on the Brady act and state background checks and I don't know of a single study by an economist for criminologist.
That's found -- reduce crime and there's a simple reason for that -- is.
Almost all the those stops that they have these.
Temporary checks that they have are involved law abiding citizens are false positives when the president said.
That there were one point five million people who were stopped from buying guns.
It's it was wrong because 99 point 8% of those.
Are false positives -- -- -- Well senator I know I'm -- -- one more point is I'm almost out of time and I'll leave that for Omar Omar as you know the president is demanding a ban on assault weapons but the last one.
As you know lasted ten years and it was studied it or it -- The CDC.
The National Research Council the institute of justice -- all studied it and concluded.
The band had no impact on gun violence indeed when it expired murder and gun violence went down.
Doesn't that tell us that banning assault weapons will not make it safer maybe they'll make us less.
First of all you're totally failing to.
It's a talk about the fact that the NRA actually guided all of the -- most.
Of our gun -- they systematically dismantled any type of law that we've had they changed the law so that they could continue.
Jury in the assault weapons -- that you make.
Assault what is by making stylistic change -- guns are and what you -- that's what we need work after it passed and what we need senator what any night.
Said that crime would go pop what it's no matter and no matter what guns listen no matter what guns are out there we have huge loopholes that are allowing dangerous people and you CNET assault.
And military assault well.
Assault style weapons.
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