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-- There's a new plan in Tennessee that affects.
Family welfare payments and ties them to the children of those recipients performance in school.
You get lower grades you get lower payments joining us now on the phone is the sponsor of the bill Republican state senator Stacey camp field.
And doctor Joseph when Roberts who has been a school superintendent in both Illinois and Michigan were similar laws were proposed.
-- -- to both of you thanks for being with us -- our first guest is on the phone.
I want to ask first about what's going on in Tennessee so representative -- if I can ask you.
Why you're proposing this majority have a -- in place if kids don't go to school.
Parents -- -- -- percent of their welfare cash payments.
-- you know we're taking it to the next level of enlistment -- in this bill and every single class because who knows what reason.
And I'll assure our special needs child or something like that working person.
Stop or cut back on the amount of straight cash payments -- gonna get this does nothing to do with food stamps or where there -- What school lunch is great big horsepower housing vouchers this -- -- straight cash payment that that the state yet or is that these people that are.
And -- but we need to stop this generational poverty.
Do you think parents can really take on that responsibility.
Of making sure their kids do better in school are they equipped.
Yeah I don't think you listen we're not talking I'm I'm not expecting these kids -- like the Magna Carta.
You know ABC 12 threes I think -- -- in just about do that we have classes for parents.
We have afterschool programs -- -- are having problems we have tutoring programs up a lot of soup.
We have just about everything you'd ever -- or except for parents that are engaged in -- ball.
And it prepared doesn't care if a child shows up the store they show they don't care they you know personally during -- school day.
-- -- to get a -- coming to we have to motivate these parents -- only way to break that generational cycle of poverty.
Is education that is -- golden ticket out of poverty.
As some people just refused that have any responsibility.
We keep try to put it all our schools -- put -- -- -- -- -- England -- -- And let me let doctor.
Doctor Robertson who has overseen the process of education in two states not Tennessee what do you think.
Well I think first of all.
Education arena gives us out title one parenting programs and we need to look at programs that are aligned themselves with the curriculum that's being taught.
We all want our parents to help their children is a -- every superintendent in this country.
But the question is how do we do this I would say that we need to look at problems that we had a head start program where bad parent participation was required.
We need to look at.
How we are going to require these parents to train them to help their children of the weakened train the parents how to help them -- their children.
We have demonstrated parents don't want to get GE -- they -- wanted to get better.
So that I would say to him look at the program that's being used in Brazil where parent I have to attend workshops parents go to training they learned how to train and help their children.
Because we now have a common core curriculum that is in place that's challenging curriculum -- the best of our parent.
So that we haven't asked parents to do something then most of them I'm not -- public knowing.
So -- look at the social economic strata vacation that we are addressing.
These parents need help.
I know I've worked in the inner cities of Chicago I've -- the hardcore schools I have worked with parents we know we need more parents help.
But we need to put in programs at a portable that target this population we need to engage these parents and some focus group.
How can we best help you to help your child in -- -- that I don't know so so because the parents have best when unprecedented program help -- to work.
But it sounds like a win win represented -- camp field are you thinking about taking any of the money that you save and investing in parents who can then invest in their kids.
Actually my program on everything -- every penny to save those back into the same program to help other people who work.
Going to -- and you know I -- I can't disagree with the whole bunch of what but what the other one says.
That thing is we have a lot of parents who couldn't give -- what we can't get on the phone they don't show up to any parent teacher meetings.
We have to find some way to motivate those fair to say wait a second maybe it's important that I talk to the teacher wants more than once a year at least.
Let's see how life got her daughter's -- Doctor Roberts should this be a model I didn't -- states to consider.
I think he needs to dig a little deeper if he's targeting -- -- that don't give a flip.
Let that be the target population and let's go in there and we have to go to our homes and get these parents but isn't what we had to do in Chicago we wanna make something work we go to the home behind those -- Nothing stops us from our objective of getting them engaged must talk to some of these targeted pants that don't give a flip.
And find out what is it going to take for you to give a flip.
Let's build program that's building and some accountability with -- that model and -- at the end if all fails let's talk about taking this 20%.
That's a lot of money.
It's a best of a lot of cash money.
Coming out of a parent's hand who have to raise a child really -- and I don't.
That's the amount of money your birdie withdrawing that 20% you wanna take it up another ten is -- compromise -- considering.
Well -- legacy you know if you want to talk motivation.
Nothing motivates like -- And what somebody says wait a second -- -- failing maybe there's a problem because I'm not -- it bigger check it I wasn't getting.
Maybe a -- saying it would certainly -- you talk for the schools he made actually returned our calls we have teachers who are calling.
We have afterschool program strategic for parents.
We have afterschool tutoring programs for our students.
What we can't get parents involved we have hit a brick wall now we can search out these -- that but sometimes very very difficult.
It -- -- self motivated.
They show up.
When they when they realize some skin in the game for themselves they show up and they take an active part and then these kids start exceeding -- -- like.
-- -- -- said there's a successful -- staggering when you -- staggeringly enormous scale but the most important that program as anti poverty program ever.
You know the -- need.
And and representative camp hill thank you so much I don't weighing in on this important issue.
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