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Should we lead smokers and obese people alone Remy said that trouble with his article -- it's picking two groups of people losing their poor choices -- problem in effect everybody gauges.
In some sort of risky behavior that could -- to other people having a paper or whatever so what's your solution.
Well I think that everyone should be responsible for themselves I do think that we should have accountability when it comes our health care we shouldn't expect the government gonna take care of us from charity care -- you know it used to be a part of your daily responsibility that we can't we -- get rid of obamacare but it's it's kind of too late for that yeah I'm I've never been an advocate of obamacare I've never said that I thought that was a good thing but -- I do believe that it could be could be even -- and there -- -- now significant.
No I do think that.
You can't just single out people who have you know and eating disorder -- and are obese or an addictive issue because of tobacco right.
That's simply not fair but -- it -- -- beat obesity eating disorder I have to imagine that if you then yeah if you can manage your diet to the extent that you're a hundred plus pounds overweight which is morbid obesity.
That's a disorder.
Unless -- -- is really like the what if -- Santa.
I mean that he's really old -- I don't know that it got fat I don't know that's.
Well it's a challenge -- movies you have to watch to be a hundred pounds -- Three day.
Have they don't -- -- I just have one in my head right now really -- look up.
But probably -- I just wanna say I I hear -- motion based arguments from male politicians every damn day.
So I don't think it's just one all right -- what I went through in a million people's I'm sure you can find examples of men being emotional but we all know that women.
Vote with our hearts of -- vote with their brains as a general path I I completely do not agree with at all.
So where were you sort of emotional creatures is meant it was it wasn't a woman who stood stood up there which surrounded by little children to instruct us on why guns -- -- congratulations that is a great example of the man acting like a woman.
But generally do not agree that women are more emotional than men.
Please I just don't know that you can that you have -- the data to back up saying that women can devote more emotional and -- -- -- You want you finally thought I don't know and here's I don't look at your screaming at me Gavin.
Why do you want female politician finally -- female -- Democrats much Boehner plan.
Did not happen now that's -- that's the thing about female politicians they have to become men like Margaret Thatcher was the best female politician -- world because she was the Irish ladies who the -- Don't let nobody say well.
That is the -- that is a danger I'd do it you know it's because like no woman can never be chart since you did the woman becomes more op warlike.
I'd like I was I got -- prove you are doing is you're applying gender norms that in the 21 century I just think it's sad that you review.
Have such old fashioned ideas about what men should be like in women should be called -- out.
In the world and this.
Iron lady of Marvel Comics character by the way and I guess that while the iron made it was a successful heavy metal band that.
I don't really -- article and I don't -- Iron Lady is actually supplement that I take.
-- You -- have been having some issues I've noticed you've gotten quite -- year -- less -- I.
Make your -- we've got a lot of them -- a follow -- and -- milk.
-- highly sensitive I think.
The -- and I think here's I think also our problem with all of this is what I I don't actually I'm.
I can't speak right I am so emotionally overcome by every.
I would like you have a libertarian but I also completely understand your arguments in this segment -- I think they made sense.
Tom I think one of the problems is when you're talking about -- might.
You were maybe jokingly maybe not talking about mandating -- surgery for obese people.
You're not allowed to statement ties obese people you can student anti smokers and you can take action against smokers put in our culture right now you can't statement -- of these people to be clear.
I was not mandating they have to get gastric bypass is what I was saying -- it makes economic sense in the long term the mathematical sense.
To provide for the government to provide free gastric bypasses for obese people because believe it that actually saves them money.
In the long run should just are you in favor of things like Mayor Bloomberg lord sugary drink them.
I know it's horrible no I -- Why not why not in the long run is not better for us hi I know it's -- -- yeah.
-- -- handed her a couple.
Horrible place to -- but when you talk to surges and people at hospitals and see how much money's being spent on.
Obesity and then -- -- -- -- fact that you can't turn someone away.
Who's fifteen -- -- and is in ER and hear all the taxpayers are already paying for that.
You start going well we have to do something but no.
I campaigned for soft drinks and movie theaters is ridiculous no one eats it movie theaters -- -- there once a year and have those giant -- so that's insane.
Bloomberg is insane.
Now he's insane but I don't think it's insane to do the numbers and say.
Free gastric bypass is.
'cause it's cheaper but -- -- actually I think easy easy questions to start with eventually gonna if it as obamacare comes -- more expensive.
Revenue and -- life issues as it were spending so much might extend someone's life three months six months a year now those are serious ethical what.
-- ethical questions already happening we talk about it like it's an ethereal concept but right now in hospitals and saying.
Well you're 79.
You're not getting to him -- -- -- got a mark my big series into something that I guess sort of I think what Remy was saying -- -- it's sort of like.
You start with the obese people and smokers but then as -- says there are other activities that people engage in at a risky that could cost people more that's a misnomer that's devoid of mathematics at the hole at first they came for the -- and I didn't say anything that they came out.
Do you think -- -- did you are.
Serious about having all these people do -- gastric -- I'm not sure where -- getting your information from that is going to be cheaper.
On health care industry.
The seriousness this procedure.
-- most people in the hospital for an extended period of time that have to be monitored for the rest of their lives they can die from infection I think it.
You know it might have been -- -- novel -- interesting idea but I'm not sure that you actually had any reason or her back to back that up.
I have played back to back up and how I recommend you read a book -- -- -- -- six thinking that's where and he discusses the black hat which is a negative advocates say that's not gonna work -- -- -- -- We need -- green hat thinking blue hat thinking we need white hat thinking where they it's a children's.
It's a great book -- modes of thought and he's saying that it saying let's not gonna work is.
Crucial we should have that but it's a very easy MO.
-- problem solving what we need to do was forgot what we do what hospitals are closed -- ten hospitals in California closed.
In the past few years.
What I'm happy to get away yeah I'm happy yeah.
I don't -- people that the fact.
Gavin my point -- that I act I've got actually got to move on my -- I don't think it's devoid of scientific fact to say that once the government.
Decide you can regulate certain people's behavior through the use of one -- or through the use of a certain kind of logic that it will then.
Take that logic and start applying it to more more people that's what governments do I agree.
I totally agree I'm not talking about anything that's mandatory I'm saying -- for Reid.
Gastric bypasses for obese people makes a mathematical economics sex.
And that's the beauty of the -- and we're -- the low -- if you would have thought.
Well I have like four more pages but apparently I'm out of time -- that Fuzzy -- that would do existed one story China.
Do we come back do you wanna do have time for the eight mile an episode up to you yet.
I will come back maybe we will do I would take a break and -- I think -- break guy coming up.
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