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Bill Daly, Tom Ruskin and Mike Baker on the steps being taken to prevent gun violence
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Deal with all right let's get to -- -- now on the whole issue.
All of gun control with me here in this -- Our Bill Daly and Tom Ruskin bill Daley obviously former FBI -- that Tom Ruskin former NYPD detective and president of the CMP group.
And joining us via Skype -- from Boise Idaho is might make a former CIA operative and president of diligence LLC.
Good to see all of -- to you first -- -- hate the idea that tip a lot of the violence that we see the gun violence.
Committed by people having.
Illegal guns are having access to guns to which they should not have had access as in the case of -- -- -- -- -- -- Connecticut.
What is law enforcement's role he'll walk the -- look at law enforcement -- That they are currently not doing.
America over the -- on his talk about the whole topic of going to -- that is is that.
We tend you have to people in this society who are lore by we -- -- after limit their rights we do we do you have to move we.
We -- what taxes we have there's people here doing things legally you are always the ones who kind of suffer the consequences of what the politicians and others think.
All the best way forward.
Having said that I think the big thing we're missing here is born -- role and he increased level -- horsemen participation in current.
Gun control laws meaning.
The you know we have so many gun laws thus far in this country not saying we can't have.
Maybe more background checks were or improve that side of that is Ray Kelly police commissioners and -- New York just a few days ago.
Most of the go -- guns at their their capture most of guns involved in crimes and others are coming into our city as they well I would suggest to Chicago and other major cities.
Illegally you and that purchasing and also bring him in -- lines so we start cutting down that we can probably see dramatic dramatic saves.
-- -- if if if we're talking a backtracking.
These illegal guns much more efficiently.
Isn't universal -- -- takes an important part of it's a very important part and I don't think anyone should object to -- -- they had done as well.
I disagree with the way -- live -- I think there's you know we have to.
Look at the people were purchasing guns and make sure that they -- legally allowed to possess that's first secondly -- what -- Capabilities of law enforcement.
In the basically enforcing the laws we already have on the books to new York city police department now is looking at a pilot project.
Of a device that sort of like -- Portable and mobile.
X ray device which will show the cops did a patrol caught does that guy possibly possess a weapon as a weapon.
In your waist band -- on your body has a very distinctive.
You sure.
It's something that a cop who's trained you know and experience cop could feel very quickly right but just patting you down to break and he knows where you put it.
This device should it be implemented by the police department New York City and then probably around the country would be of assistance.
In taking illegal guns off the street if you legally possess that weapon let's say you're off duty cop.
And that that.
Piece of equipment is focused towards you and the cops season approaches you and the first thing you know had to do was properly identify yourself.
And and let the cop know that you illegally possessing America.
It would take until the streets that potentially could -- Crimes and quit supportive and -- get to -- the supportive of what the the stop and frisk is -- going here in New York -- and also many big dent.
In getting using illegal guns off the streets of New York -- you have the ACLU fighting to stop and frisk you.
I'm gonna let -- make little girls like her obesity senator Mike Baker eight Boise Idaho might you have your thoughts on not all of us and -- -- that the question of how many illegal guns all right Daryn how we can track them.
-- -- -- All you won't hear me -- that Rudolph but I think -- right.
You know that would what we got was that it was blogger on the ball and we haven't been doing that consistently and -- -- over the years.
And if we did then we would go quietly -- the role.
Do resolve an issue that we're talking about now which is how do you get the illegal guns off the street.
You know putting up putting -- -- -- a weapon or the up for the law abiding citizens.
That's going to be nothing for the cardinal got that -- that the weapons on the street that's what they do.
The second part that are operating I think it's a very interesting one.
I liked the idea.
Of being able to look at the police officers and I got to find whatever they -- I didn't quite -- applied.
Someone walking down -- carrying weapons but.
I would note that we saw.
Wouldn't go that is when you try to enhance -- reading ability at the airport.
Where we know we have security concerns.
You can imagine what the civil liberties groups will say.
And it goes against the belt I would always go -- -- Civil liberties groups we'll go crazy if suddenly we're staying that long what's more out and hit the ability.
Like get a -- you know what someone is -- carry on the street -- much easier than anticipated let's just let them banned weapons.
Because that makes him feel good and the children that -- -- do they don't want to deal with the other issues that aren't the only -- problem involved.
In trying to import -- the rules that are already on the books.
They a couple of our viewers weighing in here Joyce he says police officers arrest people -- -- -- reports is up to the DNA of the city or state.
To file charges against that person most will not enforce -- almost.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- she says there's been a huge uptick in violence in the past twelve months or so.
All of this just being coverage you'll -- More coverage it always -- every -- a definite.
Increasing gun violence in your view bill or are we just -- Is it hearing about a hundred together -- a look at some statistics -- -- so much first only is that if you don't have statistics you don't have enough to prove your point eat it -- -- -- some statistic thank you.
But Henry.
I mean.
List is -- list here they count differ bird deaths homicides world where that's related to guns it was two that's eleven it was a little 30031000.
You look at the chart this seems to be.
So what habitat but it's been much higher before and has dropped down and it is maybe in -- -- tick upward where you know I think I would.
Kind of in a way.
Drew a comparison to what happened in highway deaths and what we were able to do in this country to bring down about -- in 1979 with 53000 people dying on nation's highways.
It's now down to around 33000 so more than more than guns.
-- that went into the obvious enforcing lawyers looking at speeds speak controls -- -- younger people aren't supposed to drive.
You know don't drive.
Education.
And certainly safety equipment.
-- so I think -- look at a program like that towards the use of weapons making sure forcing all lawyers.
They usually do some education much like -- your guess -- spoken out is that I think you'll see a drop down in that quite significantly and I think.
We don't let -- almost as people think that that's a panacea lawmakers what do they do for job you know it's like.
There have everything's a nail I gotta have a law to two would.
I think I think the three -- four incidents that come to mind colorblind to.
The year at Virginia Tech news and a roar and now.
School in Connecticut I think.
The fact that the media is they -- so immediately brings it right to -- we've always had violent incidents in this country and around the world.
-- it's much more highlighted and it's come time that we do have to look at how we're going to protect our people as formal law enforcement.
And former CIA we are looking to protect the people who are in our country.
And how do we do that and what's the best way -- -- -- -- know is discussing mental health and you know the -- lives.
Definitely had a mental health issue.
Could even spotted could be -- -- -- -- -- could even help what you don't ahead of time could clean bowl and the column going to do well.
Have been Korda had a target process possibly and did you detect definitely could've been so we have to look towards how wouldn't stop these incidents.
Not necessarily restricting people's legal right to possess a gun.
And lastly we can't allow.
Journalists and at a news -- to be able publish those lists and over again.
But that's interesting.
Thought my god could just quickly to wrap it up you lost -- on this.
God I think I think it is not necessarily network we're we're we're seeing more violence more gun violence right now I think -- On a bigger issue I think were or what you've got the prize in a way.
I think world -- violent.
All -- but I don't think that's that they're going to issue.
-- -- got everything from video game is sort of the access to immediate information that the Internet and other technology to block it would.
I think it you know that that increase the level.
Violence in the desensitized to -- that -- gonna get the bigger.
Problem but it immediately -- he started out -- With the -- taking -- wouldn't I don't -- we would have even been covering that.
If they had invented a new found shooting we certainly wouldn't use that story I deleted -- gun control discussion.
If it hadn't been in the -- -- shooting.
But doesn't go to just my thought important.
Okay might -- kind of told rescue Bill Daly thank you all to the --
