Unions looking for a refund?
Report: Union members upset with health care law, rising costs
- Duration 8:14
- Date Feb 2, 2013
Report: Union members upset with health care law, rising costs
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-- and and there -- unions looking for a healthier refund.
Hello everyone I'm Charles -- for Neil Cavuto and call it buyer's remorse and new reports and -- unions are set what the health care law they supported.
During -- driving up medical off now they want federal subsidies but they ask for the -- bonds plays those that think the sport.
Ben Stein say you McDowell also at a -- Hinske Charlie Gasparino and Gary count on -- -- wanna go with -- on this.
Look they should pay for every dime look at -- the politicians didn't read the bill.
The unions didn't read the bill every time Obama comes at -- Obama comes out with something.
They just back it no matter what all of a sudden they -- and -- moment could they realize.
-- might cost go up so please help me.
I think the bottom line don't fill it up with some sort of exemption some -- sort of subsidy guess what it's gonna be on our backs as usual.
I know but it's -- day in the mid may be good.
Expecting the quid pro -- didn't quite happen.
If they get to Gary's point that if they get these subsidies on top of -- -- union members already having.
Health insurance that just opens the door for handouts does anybody ever -- and ultimately -- -- the cost of -- -- -- even more.
Listen this wall was about.
Health insurance to people who didn't have it well union members you have it your costs go up suck it up at.
At that they don't like it back.
-- I feel like Ellen I'll bet.
Charlie they've got a couple of wins right -- -- -- but I think the biggest point of date the date qualify for breaks.
It's -- -- the world.
I mean he would do this it's the kind of -- in the end of of the health care -- in the first place that.
You know there's -- sort of Alex you know you can get it out if you you have -- out and by the way it doesn't really work -- can't I mean.
I'm not -- it ever was designed to work but.
At least theoretically.
You can't work -- all these if he can't -- put all these exemptions but you know what this reminds -- have might have all those kids coming out of college eighteen in college eighteen to 22.
Who voted for the president got his lousy economy and pretty pretty weak prescriptions to solving our problems and are now are out of work and a complaint.
You get what you pay for guys -- -- that's a great point to you felt like you know maybe the -- You know obviously put a lot of money behind the president's reelection campaign went out there they campaign form and they feel like perhaps it's on a fast one but ultimately -- we have to pay -- Well I would say it's even worse and that's our might -- over and Charlie it's worse than that.
But it would probably -- it's not the constitution of the people and the congress don't read the -- -- Google rose's dad you have to read you have to pass them and then we'll know it did and that's not -- -- government does that colossal failure of God's additional government it is an outraged that this happened and mr.
Obama should be embarrassed humiliated in the congress should be embarrassed and humiliated.
They've passed developers but without knowing what was editor what I would call more and the unions did give Mayer's dated the man who knows and -- You know Adam -- it's right these bills now -- it's outrageous multi thousand pages.
And ironically typically the lobbyist who helped write them but this particular case the unions really -- like maybe they -- sites wipes out someone.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- But at the recent explain to people what this is -- -- of obviously legislation sometimes -- unintended consequences.
The unintended consequence here.
Is that did the legislation was meant to help I think as someone already has said.
People who didn't have health insurance well that creates a disincentive for companies to continue to give the insurance in certain cases.
And that's with the union will set that's out here.
I don't see what it doesn't shock me -- You -- -- -- -- anybody you'll have a couple trying to locate it but it's not saying that no I don't think that's fair to say but the whole thing as a joke.
My got to take -- today that I you know Adam typically does a good job when he says when he's gonna clear things up for us that he might just made it worse I'm more confused than I was before.
And that's right.
And look going going forward here's the problem there's already been a ton of waivers -- -- he'd been a ton of exemptions.
If they continue that all all along these lines with the unions.
Every Tom Dick and Harry and myself can ask the question why not me you coming -- with these -- again and and -- said it correctly it is absolutely -- seeing.
That they would do this let me try to make weekly lottery and I don't think anybody of -- any of us knows exactly what's gonna come out on the right side of.
Of this because -- the numbers can be a going to be crazy.
You have the right side -- or -- somebody might might.
My my friends -- pretending like this is a PTA meeting -- that -- you know there was some provision for a big sale next Thursday it is far more complicated than that and Gary.
Here's the -- shot.
Thirty million more Americans are going to have health insurance that's what the legislation was about.
It is not perfect and yes slightly unhappy do you think if there's a lot of unions will support you think it's gonna say having the lead to savings were insane or like a hundred.
Billion dollars over ten years saving you would they will -- -- and I was how can -- save money when there's all these exemptions how could pay for itself.
When anybody that you know nice Charlie the number one goal is to get more Americans would help out that's out Estrada resulted yeah as a nation millions -- Abbott.
They say they'll be -- million.
Hillary does our government does go back to being a part of this though that you because.
Opinion you also talked about -- you talk about Charlie kids coming out of school.
There are people who actually thought that they would be exempt from certain things while we built this gigantic welfare society.
I mean the fact of the matter is unions are just the latest to find out guess what I had got to pony up.
That's the issue add on to your point is that these are people who are in unions to have health insurance.
And now the unions want extra money a federal subsidy from the government because their health insurance costs that are gonna go up as another threatening the government saying hey we're just gonna dump -- health insurance plans all the -- point caught -- You're right right so -- and we -- not the Obama administration is against them we.
Number no what I'm going -- you know there's -- There's a broader narrative here going on and that is.
That finally the chickens are coming home to roost on -- Obama's various economic policy I mean this.
Most people thought they voted for Obama if you made less than 250000 -- a bridge we're gonna get your taxes -- well guess what you -- that -- -- -- that tax increase.
I don't worse -- -- could have possibly happened in this country is to lose the constitution.
That's worse than having these people governed by Medicaid instead of by obamacare saluted the God's vision is what's happening that the -- that the -- or not there yet.
Gary K I mean you know what you're -- being -- staunchly opposed to that's from the very beginning I read your work.
It does as you know the unions and now everyone's included do you think this is where -- right that there were -- in this direction that we're gonna lose the constitution.
I don't know if you lose -- hole but I I have to tell you there pieces that are being thrown out the window right now.
You know what went -- the my writing I've been using three words at what cost.
You know all of these programs at what cost Adam talks about.
Thirty million people get help create terrific at what cost guess what.
The unions who voted it is back with it and every way shape or form are realizing.
There is a cost but all of a sudden no we don't want the cost and that's where the problem's gonna like going forward.
Quickly -- a live someone's gotta pony it up and now you're saying them cost doesn't matter right I mean essentially that's -- if you think.
No I absolutely am not saying it doesn't matter I'm saying I'm willing to pay and I would I I remember how they still in this in this news.
Remember confused arguing with the -- -- with not supporting the conflict -- remember what have they sold this thing they -- this -- -- healthcare reform was -- -- -- -- less I'm -- And every sign suggests it's not and I'm not willing to subsidize the health care problem of someone who already have health insurance thank you we'll leave it there again it's -- -- on think those.