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Negotiators dealing with suspect in AL hostage crisis

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It is day seven of this hostage standoff police say 65 year old Jimmie Lee dykes.

Is still holed up in his underground bunker with a five year old boy he took hostage last Tuesday.

Does not appear to be an end -- the stalemate anytime soon so how all our negotiators trying to get dikes to surrender.

All signs is the former supervisor of the new York city police department's hostage negotiating.

-- team.

I wonder about that.

Do you do you actively -- -- the -- hey we'd like you to surrender we'd like you to come to surface -- do you make it a little more.

Subtle well the bottom line to it is you keep dialogue going into new York city police department we have a model.

It's called talk to me and that right now is the only main option that should be taking place.

Continue the negotiations because they seem to work the other options a total negative options you wanna go in with.

A young dynamic entry team no bid cool you want to use chemical additives that negative bad call.

Why not I mean there's this pipe that supposedly they are communicating through why couldn't you while they're sleeping or something.

Put some kind of gas that would knock them out and then and then bring them to the surface.

Good point point is is that we've had history in Russia they did that -- movie theater where -- over a hundred people died.

Because you got to understand one thing John.

The lung capacity that child is different than lung capacity of the hostage taker.

And -- can they do not know what type of elements each one might have -- how much they breathing technique is the amount of oxygen in that.

In that.

Space where there.

Being held and it's a small space he had this thing ready I was -- first under the impression that it was this entire underground Warren but it's quite small now it's something like six feet by eight feet it's like a small -- Well the fact that the little boy has been given access to things like.

Cheese crackers and a hot wheels car.

That's a good sign that's an excellent sign it shows that the hostage taker is bonding with and we call that -- Stockholm syndrome.

Where the the hostage taker and the hostage are starting to get understand each other their request they are given takes.

That also happened between the hostage negotiator and the hostage taker.

If he wanted to kill this child he could have done it by now I mean.

What's -- why -- why drag this.

Whole situation now absolutely he has a motive he has a statement problem he had is he had a statement before.

He was you know when we have a listen to him that's why this type of hostage takes the longest amount of time you're dealing with a personal who's on a roller coaster.

And the name of the game as you've got to be honest with him because you lose valuable time -- -- not.

You got him.

Tell him that we -- going to help him the police that are talking to him right now we're talking to as a helper as a friend.

Not -- to arrest him that's a separate issue.

The important thing is that.

He takes care of that child.

And that child and he come out and they have successfully keep in mind the longer it takes.

The better chance for successful negotiations.

And release yeah well it's been a week already -- long but if if time is on our side at this point that's good.

-- -- Wallace -- thank you thank you --

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