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Eagle Scout on Gays in Scouting

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    Scouts for Equality founder Zach Wahls talks with Alan about allowing gays in the Boy Scouts.

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Yesterday the president viewed by Scott Kelly.

Is that the for the Super Bowl was -- About the issue of gays in the Boy Scouts and here is what the president had to -- Gays lesbians should have.

Access and and opportunity.

The same where what ails us.

In every institution and walk a life and the scouts are great institution.

That are promoting.

Young people and exposing them to you know opportunities.

And leadership.

That.

You know will serve people for the rest of their lives and I think that nobody should be barred for that.

Check closes an eagle scout founder of gas for equality he gained viva rally via viral illness.

The -- -- -- -- eleventh.

-- -- A video he did that -- out but he testified before the Iowa house of represented -- of keeping same sex marriage legal having raised by.

-- women.

On injured debacle like two months and -- kind of been unwittingly.

-- -- -- thrust into the spotlight here but to continue to.

Carry that torch which is good.

-- Thanks so much we -- things we calculus for verbally but close to doing your video -- Tell me what.

In the still great push back this notion that the Boy Scouts as a private organizations -- think I guess they have the right do whatever they want right.

-- -- as an Eagles got a straight eagle scout that you know I definitely question a portion of which got to do anything you know I think it's.

Frankly you know kind -- humbling that some folks think that we can appeal to force the Boy -- to do anything.

But really -- our organization has been focused on is highlighting the impact that this band is having at a local level and leaving the decision making QB yet -- official.

What do you think the -- is what is the impact of the van at a local level.

-- the thought things that happened the local -- for one thing and they see you know -- a country that is increasingly.

You know uprising in valuing LG -- -- it's harder for young parents who are no closer to my generation who have young kids to enroll them in the cub -- -- -- -- -- programs.

Are you seeing some cub scout membership Paula.

Significantly over the last decade and that's simply because a lot of parents included and frankly eagle scout that.

I feel comfortable about entrusting their sons to an organization that supposed to be treating them values and they feel that the sort is an organization that's openly engaging in discrimination.

Now.

There there -- those who are saying that this would result in a mass exodus.

Of scouts and we don't hold true tradition.

The people just leave the group.

-- I mean two things one you know both my mom's words.

You know -- my scouting experience -- drove up and you know with the rural midwest.

So the idea that somehow oh you know openly -- leader participating in your organizational -- the mass exodus that is ridiculous.

Now but part of my experiences are part of -- -- within you know very progressive college town in Iowa City, Iowa but I was born and raised in you know world Wisconsin you know now fewer than 20000 people.

My mom -- what would be lesbian positions.

So you know when they got involved yes some parents are a little apprehensive at first but after this so that my mom's work.

Just interest that is enriching scouting experience that realized it was really an -- but this handing -- -- that real quick.

Is that if you look at you know the -- prop eight largest.

Repeat -- -- of churches.

-- -- mood in the United Methodist Church in the second largest church sponsored.

The united.

Like church of Christ presbyterian in the -- -- they all come out deported ending this policy side I think that even though.

-- -- there are a lot of churches that are you know opposed to same sex marriage still.

There's a vast difference between being opposed to same sex marriage yeah.

Indeed opposed to the enrichment of young men because they happen not to be straight.

-- troubles me -- when you have people like Tony Perkins of the family research council and they say the mission of the Boy Scouts as to instill values in young people.

To -- devalues our acceptance of the rhetoric I mean when they say morally straight as -- that means supposed to be straight vs -- well.

Or is it morally straight means you can't be gay or accept gays and then be moral and that's extremely troubled.

That's ridiculous of course that means.

The free and morally straight predates this colonialism for heterosexual by fifty years -- one thing.

Who -- this notion of traditional values is really kind of I think more cut its code for this.

A biblical literal -- fundamentalism that has become popular in America over the last forty years.

And -- frankly I think though it's really a true traditional American values and nothing is more American to -- that live and let live.

You have this guy have Bryan -- I'm sure there was -- American Family Association.

Says.

This and I've interviewed him a few times not successfully this is this move the list of the -- -- dramatically reverse itself.

In the immediate future -- presents the capitulation of the force of sexual deviancy.

And this -- we'll have made a deliberate decision to put the sexual integrity of every young man in their care at risk.

That the -- position I think that mr.

Fisher -- basically not know what he's talking about.

-- -- actually the number of co lead youth programs so the idea that -- This is going to be.

Frightening thing is -- it is overhauling.

You know that position is one.

Not true -- -- they -- the exact same argument when they're talking about letting women -- scout leaders thirty years ago.

We've had this argument just what we've had other arguments in the past before.

They're you know was obviously no major -- and allowing women to be leaders of scout units.

There'll be no later arm allowing gay -- to be leaders as -- -- the second.

To think that mr.

-- the -- implies that all homosexuals somehow had a files to the exact.

Acting with the comments you know even though he won't tell you that would have to do that is what it's supposed to do that plant that -- in your mind.

Is despicable.

And go to the flies in the face but the last twenty years of modern -- -- should understanding yeah.

And as I understand what they want to do is leave it up to the local chapters as to what they would do and each individual case so you could shop around and find a true perhaps.

-- that is that is more to your liking if your community would have different options for great.

Absolutely notices in and for that reason you know our organization's views this says this film but of the half measure.

Now obviously there are a lot of folks are -- is way too much and you know we we feel that this -- Tell us -- in the right direction but discrimination you know at any level -- at the national level -- the left local level.

You know really flies in the face of what scouting supposed to be about and it's simple armed -- to kids.

Gay or straight.

About you know whether or not discrimination should be permissible so you think you go further.

I think it did BofA has to move as quickly as its members will allow absolutely.

Well that's a -- at least a starting measure and they're probably gonna do it right and I looked like.

Did nobody did you say it is has never put something on its formal agenda for executive board.

There has not passed overwhelmingly that we expected -- to be close.

Because there are a number of kind of somewhat.

But usual circumstances that are -- kind of aligned himself on this issue with huge amounts of pressure from both sides.

But we do you expect to be -- -- the past you know resolution ending -- -- -- my two moms is out right.

It is -- upper register over or just under a year.

Very good says act laws and also Europe founder of -- for equality thank you very much talk in recent trip to Asia for.

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